Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2632438 8-Jan-2021 14:43

New York Times - The Punchiest Punchlines (Treason Finale Edition)

“Thank you for joining us for the treason finale of the Donald Trump era.” - JIMMY KIMMEL

“Hey, Republicans who supported this president - especially the ones in the joint session of Congress today - have you had enough?
"After five years of coddling this president’s fascist rhetoric, guess whose followers want to burn down the Reichstag?” - STEPHEN COLBERT

“That’s a very upsetting Paul Revere remix: ‘The red hats are coming! The red hats are coming!’” - STEPHEN COLBERT

“He does not give a damn about you. He went home to watch it on TV. You’re just entertainment for him - and, of course, a steady stream of merchandise sales.” - STEPHEN COLBERT

“Remind me: Are we great again yet?” - STEPHEN COLBERT

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#2632444 8-Jan-2021 15:05

This looks promising ...

Rep. Diana DeGette @RepDianaDeGette

Member of Congress, Colorado's 1st Congressional District. Senior member of Energy and Commerce Committee.

BREAKING: We are moving forward with introducing Articles of Impeachment against President Donald J. Trump.

He is a real danger to our country.

He must be removed from office immediately and barred from ever holding an elected office again.

Here is the 4-page draft impeachment document:

(click to view)

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#2632446 8-Jan-2021 15:10

I haven't verified it, but apparently if he gets impeached twice (regardless of whether he's convicted) he won't be allowed to run again. That's the only reason I can see for going ahead with an impeachment that has no chance of removing him before his term ends.

EDIT: I can't find anything that supports the idea that being impeached twice would prevent him from running again. Fake news I guess.

EDIT 2: OK, they meant the idea that he could potentially be impeached even after leaving office, and a successful conviction would prevent him from running again.

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#2632453 8-Jan-2021 15:29

I doubt they will get a successful conviction on impeachment as it will still require a 2/3 majority in the senate. While it isn't out of the question after yesterday that 16 will cross the aisle and vote with the democrats, it is by no means certain. At least this time they will be able to set the agenda for the trial in the senate and call relevant witnesses and evidence which was blocked last time around.

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#2632456 8-Jan-2021 15:35

Varkk:

I doubt they will get a successful conviction on impeachment as it will still require a 2/3 majority in the senate. While it isn't out of the question after yesterday that 16 will cross the aisle and vote with the democrats, it is by no means certain. At least this time they will be able to set the agenda for the trial in the senate and call relevant witnesses and evidence which was blocked last time around.

Impeaching again and failing to get a conviction would be worse than doing nothing IMO.

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#2632514 8-Jan-2021 16:34

I can see why they would want to impeach him, but he's leaving in less than a fortnight, isn't he?

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#2632527 8-Jan-2021 17:06

quickymart:
I can see why they would want to impeach him, but he's leaving in less than a fortnight, isn't he?

He can do a huge amount of damage in a fortnight, particularly now that he's seen what he can get his worshippers to do for him, and that so far there's no consequences for him. Just having his last days tired up in impeachment proceedings would be a win.

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#2632528 8-Jan-2021 17:12

I believe the quickest way is via the 25th Amendment. The amendment allows for the vice-president and a majority of the Cabinet to declare a president unfit for office. This would be a hell of a lot quicker than impeachment proceedings.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2632531 8-Jan-2021 17:19

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#2632537 8-Jan-2021 17:36

Tinkerisk: # 12 #

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#2632538 8-Jan-2021 17:38

FineWine:

I believe the quickest way is via the 25th Amendment. The amendment allows for the vice-president and a majority of the Cabinet to declare a president unfit for office. This would be a hell of a lot quicker than impeachment proceedings.

Pence has to agree to this though.

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#2632552 8-Jan-2021 18:45

"USA Today" is about was inoffensive center moderate, as it comes.

Lots of headlines about DC attempted coup. None of them good for Trump and Republicans.

USA Today: 'This was really big': Far-right extremist groups use Capitol attack to recruit new members

Wednesday’s mob insurrection at the Capitol building in Washington, D.C., is unlikely to be the last violent action from far-right extremists, who may also be using the week’s extraordinary events to recruit members for a swelling coalition around outgoing president Donald Trump, according to experts on extremism.

While this week’s attack was extraordinary in it’s brazenness, it was also a wake-up call to federal and local law enforcement that threats from far-right Trump supporters should be taken very seriously over the last two weeks of Trump’s presidency and beyond, said Mary McCord, legal director at the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

“There’s a whole lot of talk about what happened in far-right extremist forums and chatrooms today, and about how the inauguration on January 20 will be the last stand and now is the time to recruit,” McCord said.

State capitols should ramp up security, much as Washington, D.C., has started to do, she said, in the expectation that Trump's followers may try to repeat this week's attack or worse.
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#2632557 8-Jan-2021 19:07

YouGov - One in five voters - including 45% of Republicans - approve of the storming of the Capitol building

A YouGov Direct poll of 1,397 registered voters

Supporters of President Trump have stormed the US Capitol to protest lawmakers certifying Joe Biden’s election victory.
Based on what you have read or heard about this, do you support or oppose these actions? (%)

Note the remarkably large minority of voters "unaware of the story".

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#2632561 8-Jan-2021 19:19

A piece from The Daily Show with Trevor Noah that originally aired during the 2016 Republican Primaries - however they re-posted today

Donald Trump - America's African President

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#2632565 8-Jan-2021 19:33

The New York Times - A Riot Amid a Pandemic: Did the Virus, Too, Storm the Capitol?

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The mob that stormed the Capitol on Wednesday did not just threaten the heart of American democracy.

To scientists who watched dismayed as the scenes unfolded on television, the throngs of unmasked intruders who wandered through hallways and into private offices may also have transformed the riot into a super-spreader event.

The coronavirus thrives indoors, particularly in crowded spaces, lingering in the air in tiny particles called aerosols. If even a few extremists were infected - likely, given the current rates of spread and the crowd size - then the virus would have had the ideal opportunity to find new victims, experts said.

“It has all the elements of what we warn people about,” said Anne Rimoin, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles.

“People yelling and screaming, chanting, exerting themselves - all of those things provide opportunity for the virus to spread, and this virus takes those opportunities.” ...

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