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  #2649670 8-Feb-2021 20:08
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I find this bizarre, when I think of the crimes her father took part in, when he was VP

Not that unusual, look at Rudy vs. Caroline Giuliani.

Bad comparison. Giuliani actively opposes the crazed Giuliani Sr and is unlikely to join the republican party. Cheney and Cheney Sr have a closer relationship.

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  #2649958 9-Feb-2021 08:08
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geekIT:

 

And on a still more depressing note, the NZ Herald re-reports that it may take seven years for the world to get back to the way it was before Covid-19.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-calculation-shows-when-pandemic-is-expected-to-end/UV5EDTOBINBGWRPEVAXT6F4I2Y/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I was kind of hoping it would never get back to the way it was before COVID-19. I mean yes obviously I would like to be able to see my family again some day but there are a lot of opportunities for positive changes. We know we can get away with traveling less. Driving less, using less ... and the difference it made in Level 4 when all the animals and birds came back...





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  #2649968 9-Feb-2021 08:38
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Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

 


 


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  #2650037 9-Feb-2021 10:25
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Rikkitic: Thanks for the link. I think the article is worth a full view

 

 

Chris Cilliza, CNN)
Fresh off a surprisingly strong vote of support within the House Republican conference, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney sat for an interview with "Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace in which she made clear that she has no plans of backing off her criticism of former President Donald Trump. It was an utterly remarkable interview, the clearest renunciation of the Trump years (and the legion of supporters he leaves behind) that we've seen come out of the GOP since the 45th president's election loss in November.

 

I went through the transcript and picked out the lines you need to see. They're below.

 

1. "The oath that I took to the Constitution compelled me to vote for impeachment and it doesn't bend to partisanship, it doesn't bend to political pressure. It's the most important oath that we take."

 

This is Cheney's response to the fact that she was censured by the Wyoming Republican Party over the weekend -- and there are calls for her to resign after her vote to impeach the President. Her calculation? The Constitution > Donald Trump.

 

2. "I think, you know, that people in the party are mistaken. They believe that BLM and Antifa were behind what happened here at the Capitol. It's just simply not the case, not true and we're going to have a lot of work to do."

 

In which Cheney directly rebuts one of the main false charges floating around about the January 6 Capitol riot -- that it was actually organized and directed by forces of the left. Imagine if every Republican member of Congress was willing to be so forthright about this?

 

3. "The extent to which the president, President Trump, for months leading up to January 6 spread the notion that the election had been stolen or that the election was rigged was a lie and people need to understand that. We need to make sure that we as Republicans are the party of truth that we are being honest about what really did happen in 2020 so we actually have a chance to win in 2022 and win the White House back in 2024."

 

So much this. Cheney's stance is born, at least in part, out of political practicality. You can't live in a fantasy world where the 2020 election was stolen and also credibly make the case to the public that you should be handed either the White House or control of Congress. Fantasies are not what governance is rooted in.

 

4. "I think this vote and conference made very clear, we are the party of Lincoln, we are not the party of QAnon or anti-Semitism or Holocaust deniers, or white supremacy or conspiracy theories. That's not who we are."

 

Truth is: You can't be both. And while Cheney realizes that, it's not at all clear to me that House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy (California) does.

 

5. "People will want to know exactly what the president was doing. They want to know, for example, whether the tweet he sent out calling Vice President Pence a coward while the attack was underway, whether that tweet, for example, was a premeditated effort to provoke violence. There are a lot of questions that have to be answered and there will be many, many criminal investigations looking at every aspect of this and everyone who was involved, as there should be."

 

Cheney here suggests that this week's impeachment trial of Trump is really only a first step in sussing out what role he played in inciting the violence of January 6. And that the myriad criminal investigations into what exactly happened on January 6 -- and what Trump did before, during and after the riot -- will come under considerable scrutiny.

 

6. "We have never seen that kind of an assault by a president of the United States on another branch of government and that can never happen again."

 

Wallace gave Cheney the chance to back off her statement explaining why she was voting to impeach Trump. She did not do so.

 

7. "What we already know does constitute the gravest violation of his oath of office by any president in the history of the country, and this is not something that we can simply look past or pretend didn't happen or try to move on. We've got to make sure this never happens again."

 

This is how Cheney answered Wallace's question about whether, if she was in the Senate, she would vote to convict and remove Trump. And it sounds like a "yes" to me.

 

8. "So it should not have gotten to the point that it did. I don't believe the Democrats have any business determining who from the Republicans sit on committees, but we should have dealt with it ourselves."

 

Asked whether or not House Republicans should have dealt with Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene and her litany of offensive and intolerant statements in the past, Cheney offered this not-that-subtle criticism of McCarthy for, well, not doing anything. Remember that the only reason the full House voted to strip Greene of her committee assignments is because House Republicans failed to punish her in any way for her past anti-Semitic and Islamophobic comments.

 

9. "Somebody who has provoked an attack on the United States Capitol to prevent the counting of electoral votes, which resulted in five people dying, who refused to stand up immediately when he was asked and stop the violence, that -- that is a person who does not have a role as a leader of our party going forward."

 

This is the most quoted line from Cheney's interview -- and rightly so. In it, she makes clear that she believes the former president should have no role in the GOP going forward. Which is further than any other Republican elected official has gone -- at least as far as I can tell.

 

10. "We have to make sure that we are able to convey to the American voters, we are the party of responsibility, we are the party of truth, that we actually can be trusted to handle the challenges this nation faces like Covid, and that's going to require us to focus on substance and policy and issues going forward but we should not be embracing the former president."

 

This, to me, is the most important point Cheney makes. There's a reason Democrats now control all levers of power in political Washington. And the reason is Donald Trump -- and the deeply irresponsible way in which he (and the Republican elected officials who enabled him) acted over the last five years. If you want voters to trust you with power, you have to show that a) your party is more than simply a cult of personality and b) that you will responsibly use that power to benefit the public. Republicans have demonstrated neither over the last four years.

 

 





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  #2650147 9-Feb-2021 11:54
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The New York Times - Here’s how Trump’s second impeachment trial will unfold in the Senate this week.

 

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Here’s how Trump’s second impeachment trial will unfold in the Senate this week.

 

Tuesday: Four hours of debate, then a procedural vote.

 

The first public clash between the president’s legal team and the impeachment managers will be over the question of whether the trial is even legitimate under the Constitution.

 

Wednesday to Friday or Sunday: 16 hours of oral arguments per side.

 

The prosecution and defense each have up to 16 hours to present their cases, starting at noon on Wednesday under the terms of the deal reached by Senators Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York, and Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky.

 

Sunday to early the following week: Senators questions, a possible debate over witnesses and possibly a verdict.

 

The sequence of what happens next is less certain.

 

Senators will be allowed at least a day to question the prosecution and defense after they present their cases once their opening presentations conclude.

 

 

 

 

 

A Step-by-Step Guide to Trump’s Second Impeachment.





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  #2650209 9-Feb-2021 12:10
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Will all the arguments be televised would be interesting watching imo.





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  #2650257 9-Feb-2021 12:46
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There is zero chance of his impeachment succeeding.


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  #2650307 9-Feb-2021 13:17
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SJB:

 

There is zero chance of his impeachment succeeding.

 

 

Unfortunately true - even if a very small chance > zero may be more accurate.

 

Prisons would be empty if criminal trials were carried out with half the jury being either co-conspirators or under threat that if they convict, the co-conspirators will harm them.

 

 


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  #2650325 9-Feb-2021 13:34
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Well said @Fred99.


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  #2650419 9-Feb-2021 15:03
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Four Seasons Total Landscaping: Film to be made of famed press conference - BBC News

 

 

The Four Seasons Total Landscaping press conference, a defining moment in last year's US election, is being made into a documentary.

 

The small Philadelphia business, not the hotel as first tweeted by then President Donald Trump, hosted his lawyer Rudy Giuliani on 8 November.

 

Mr Giuliani made unfounded electoral fraud claims, just as US media began calling the election for Joe Biden.

 

The film will explain how the business ended up hosting the event.

 





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  #2650446 9-Feb-2021 15:53
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USA Today: Donald Trump ruled Facebook, Twitter before he was banned. Will @realdonaldtrump log into Gab or somewhere else?

...Gab, a conservative friendly social network, says it's keeping @realdonaldtrump warm for him. The former president does not use Gab. Some news outlets incorrectly reported that Trump had broken his social media silence by posting on Gab last week.

“We will go on the record stating that we know 100% for a fact that Jared Kushner is actively trying to keep Trump off Gab and has been for weeks,” Gab's CEO has claimed. “Because Gab is the only safe place left for conservatives that means Kushner is trying to keep Trump off the internet.”

...Trump allies and Republican lawmakers lost thousands of followers in Twitter purge after Capitol riots

Last year, Parler offered the Trump Organization 40% of the company in exchange for then-President Trump to make it his primary platform, BuzzFeed reported.

...Parler, one of the social media platforms used by Trump supporters to plan and chronicle the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, has been taken offline and it's unclear when it will return.

...Some reports say Trump can’t wait to get back online. He’s also been indefinitely suspended on Google’s YouTube and on Facebook and Instagram. Facebook has handed off responsibility about whether to restore Trump's access to its Oversight Board.
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  #2650633 9-Feb-2021 20:35
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A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WANT TRUMP CONVICTED BUT REPUBLICANS CAN’T UNLATCH THEIR LIPS FROM HIS ASS

 

 As former acting solicitor general Neal Katyal told The Washington Post earlier this month, “If Senate Republicans really want to say—against the constitutional text and history—that a former official cannot be barred from future officeholding—then that just makes the criminal prosecution of Donald Trump a necessity for his actions…it can’t be that Donald Trump a) can’t be impeached for Ukraine because America should wait for the election; b) can’t be impeached for January 6 because he will soon be out of office; and c) cannot be prosecuted while he’s a sitting president; and d) cannot be prosecuted afterwards for his actions while president. At some point, Trump has to face a real tribunal.”


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  #2650638 9-Feb-2021 20:46
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kingdragonfly: USA Today: Donald Trump ruled Facebook, Twitter before he was banned. Will @realdonaldtrump log into Gab or somewhere else?

...

 

"Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no." 

 

"Conservative friendly" sites like Parler and Gab are extreme hard-right echo chambers / fermentation vessels for CT - no reach across the spectrum.  Trump would be preaching to the converted.

 

 


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  #2650645 9-Feb-2021 21:01
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Fred99:

"Conservative friendly" sites like Parler and Gab are extreme hard-right echo chambers / fermentation vessels for CT - no reach across the spectrum.  Trump would be preaching to the converted.

 

 

He's a narcissist, isn't that exactly what he'd want, universal acclaim with no-one questioning him? Look at his rallies for examples of this, they were for the benefit of his ego and nothing else.

  #2650766 10-Feb-2021 09:20
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OMG they should impeach him just based on his counsel for rabbiting on about nothing, Talk about drone on about nothing that really means anything.





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