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#2945191 22-Jul-2022 11:26

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The Washington Post - Watchdog launches criminal probe over missing Secret Service messages

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The Department of Homeland Security’s watchdog has launched a criminal probe into the Secret Service’s erased text messages from around the time of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The department’s Office of Inspector General immediately instructed Secret Service to halt its forensic search for agents’ telephone texts. ...

The letter from Inspector General Joseph V. Cuffari’s office came within an hour of a Washington Post story Wednesday revealing that his office had failed for months to alert Congress that the Secret Service deleted texts for this key period of time surrounding Jan. 6.

"Not suspicious a bit"

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#2945193 22-Jul-2022 11:34

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I've never been in court, but I've heard this advice given.

1) Dress nice. Borrow a suit if you have to

2) Don't piss off the judge.

Regarding one, Bannon's face brings to mind the saying "you can't polish a turd"

And two, he must be really well-connected, or wants to be a martyr. I guess he's betting than "any publicity is good publicity."

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#2945228 22-Jul-2022 12:55

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The Washington Post - Watchdog launches criminal probe over missing Secret Service messages

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The Department of Homeland Security’s watchdog has launched a criminal probe into the Secret Service’s erased text messages from around the time of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

The department’s Office of Inspector General immediately instructed Secret Service to halt its forensic search for agents’ telephone texts. ...

The letter from Inspector General Joseph V. Cuffari’s office came within an hour of a Washington Post story Wednesday revealing that his office had failed for months to alert Congress that the Secret Service deleted texts for this key period of time surrounding Jan. 6.

"Not suspicious a bit"

I thought the SS was meant to be neutral. So why cover up advice to a Turd who then ignores that advice concerning his own safety.

So the question is then, "did the SS FU?" and if so are they trying to cover it up?

OR did the texts say, "let him do what he wants and we will give him a Royal Flush 🚽 (honour guard) at his national funeral"

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2945282 22-Jul-2022 14:54

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Day 8

The New York Times

This battle is being played out on a medium that Mr. Trump believed he had long ago mastered - the small screen.

An adroitly edited and tightly scripted hearing produced by television professionals is being used to make the case against a president who made his fame, and gained a devoted political following, through his unscripted and improvised performances on reality TV.

Five takeaways from the eighth hearing of the Jan. 6 committee

Trump ignored a torrent of pleas to call off his supporters

Trump never made a single call to law enforcement or the Pentagon

Members of Pence’s secret service detail feared for their lives

New testimony bolstered Cassidy Hutchinson’s credibility

Even the next day, Trump would not say the election was over

... and the BBC version :

The main takeaways after an eventful hearing

Donald Trump chose not to intervene as a mob of his supporters ransacked the Capitol, the committee alleged

Despite being made aware of the violence within minutes of his return to the White House, Trump declined to condemn the rioters and instead sat in his dining room watching the violence unfold

Almost everyone in Trump's orbit counselled him to call on his supporters to leave the Capitol, but he refused to follow their advice, according to testimony played at the hearing

Vice-President Mike Pence was in such danger inside the Capitol that members of his security detail made "calls to say goodbye to family members", one witness testified.
Around the same time, Trump attacked Pence on Twitter for lacking "the courage" to decertify the election results

Newly-released outtakes from Trump's speech the day after the Capitol riot show him refusing to say the that election was over and that rioters broke the law

More hearings are coming, starting in September.

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#2945459 22-Jul-2022 18:06

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Well, well, well. Mouthy election denier jerk-ass Josh Hawley (remember? the clown who gave the fistpump before heading into the Capitol on January 6?) after the building was invaded by Trump's army of thugs decides to make a run for it, as shown in this video from today's hearings here:

I don't understand why he ran? I thought he would have welcomed all his newfound election-denying friends with open arms! Not run away from them (like the coward he is).

/sarcasm

As an aside, I've been seeing memes online about this all day, most of them likening him to Forrest Gump running. Some of them are actually quite clever.

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#2945464 22-Jul-2022 18:28

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WATCH: In outtake of speech after Jan. 6 attack, Trump didn’t want to say ‘election is over’

https://youtu.be/S4qamhNP3rY (short version)

https://youtu.be/Kih5hGkx5-M (longer version)

The Jan. 6 Capitol Hill riot investigative committee shows never-before-seen outtakes from a speech prepared for then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 7, 2021.

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#2945482 22-Jul-2022 21:09

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FineWine:
I thought the SS was meant to be neutral. So why cover up advice to a Turd who then ignores that advice concerning his own safety.

So the question is then, "did the SS FU?" and if so are they trying to cover it up?

They're not protecting Trump, they're protecting themselves. Imagine if the texts were released and people could read "The orange clown has left the circus tent, repeat, the orange clown has left the circus tent", and then later "The tiny fingered, Cheeto-faced sh*tgibbon just tried to grab the steering wheel!".

Also, as other observers have pointed out, imagine if things were reversed and the SS or FBI wanted to recover someone else's texts, they'd have them before you even knew it.

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#2945483 22-Jul-2022 21:17

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Maybe the carriers would have held records of the messages sent between phones over those days? Granted it was 18 months ago but I would hope they thought "we should keep a copy of all messages sent on our network over this day, just in case"?

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#2945524 23-Jul-2022 07:36

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https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/22/jury-deliberations-steve-bannon-00047419

Great work by the jury, although Bannon made it fairly easy by not even bothering to mount any defense whatsoever. He gets his sentence in October. What happens before then? Is he free to just keep spreading bs on his show, or does he stay in custody?

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#2945532 23-Jul-2022 08:34

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Thanks, @neb for giving me another view of the msge deletion. I was thinking, "Gee, isn't the SS on the good guys side?".

I hope the truth will out.....

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#2945535 23-Jul-2022 08:45

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This reminds me of the saying: "if you own someone $100, they own you. If you own someone $100 million, you own them."

Why is this a misdemeanor? Typically a felony contempt of court occurs when a subpoenaed party “knowingly and willfully” disobeys a subpoena in a crime of violence case.

Can't get much more willful, and violent than this, with seven deaths.

Politico: Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon found guilty for refusing to testify to Jan. 6 panel

Bannon faces up to two years in prison on the misdemeanor charges and has indicated he intends to appeal.
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Outside the courthouse after the verdicts were returned, the former Trump aide and his attorneys indicated they plan to appeal.
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The viability of that precedent is likely to be at the center of Bannon’s appeal and could make its way to the Supreme Court.

Bannon is likely to ask Nichols to allow him to remain free while he pursues his appeal, which could take a year or longer.
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#2945537 23-Jul-2022 08:56

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For the man who made this claim, he is certainly forgetful: "Technology – nobody knows more about technology than me – technology is just the bells and whistles on the wall."

CNN: How the January 6 committee used Fox News against Donald Trump

Everyone knows that Donald Trump is a devotee of Fox News. During his presidency, he would regularly live tweet his favorite shows and viewed prime-time hosts like Sean Hannity as de facto advisers to his White House.

On Thursday night, the January 6 committee used the former President's viewing habits against him, making a compelling case that Trump had to know about the violence happening at the US Capitol on that fateful day.

Virginia Rep. Elaine Luria, a Democrat, said that witnesses had told the committee that Trump had Fox News on in the White House dining room where he spent much of the afternoon of January 6, 2021.

Luria and Illinois Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger, who alternated laying out what Trump was doing on the afternoon of January 6, repeatedly played clips of what was airing on Fox News at the time. And repeatedly, those clips showed Fox News anchors making clear that the initial protest was turning violent -- as early as the 2 p.m. Eastern hour.

At one point, the committee showed a layout of the White House, complete with a TV showing exactly what was on Fox News at the time Trump would be watching.

The committee also displayed texts between then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and the likes of Hannity and fellow Fox News anchor Laura Ingraham, who urged Meadows to tell Trump to issue a statement telling the crowd to go home.
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#2945552 23-Jul-2022 11:19

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Washington Post: ‘Hollywood Ten’ were the last people jailed for contempt of Congress

Stephen K. Bannon could become the first person sent to jail for contempt of Congress since the “Hollywood Ten” in 1948.

A federal jury in D.C. on Friday convicted the former White House chief strategist on two charges of refusing to comply with a subpoena to testify before the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by supporters of former president Donald Trump.

Each of the two charges is punishable by 30 days-to-one-year in jail, as well as a $100,000 fine.

Sentencing was scheduled for Oct. 21.

Contempt of Congress is rarely prosecuted and even more rarely leads to jail time. The last time anyone was sentenced to be locked up for it was during the “Red Scare” of the early Cold War.

The 10 men known as the “Hollywood Ten” were movie writers, directors and producers who refused to tell the controversial House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) whether they were Communists.
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#2945768 24-Jul-2022 09:35

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The Daily Beast: Truth Social Users Are Fuming Over ‘Censorship’ on Trump’s Platform

Claims of “censorship” are flying on Donald Trump’s alternative social media platform, Truth Social.

The main point of contention among users is that Trump’s site continues to apply “sensitive content” notices obscuring some posts, including a popular anti-Biden meme that mocks the president over increasing inflation rates.

“This content may not be suitable for all audiences,” the notice states.

That content warning has also covered up a popular graphic depicting Jesus Christ and a quote from the Bible with a gray filter, leaving users fuming.

“Truth Social loves censorship,” one user wrote, whose bio on the site included the hashtag “NoMoreRINOs.”

Another pro-Trump user, “Ultra MAGA Peanut,” responded on the platform that Truth Social “should be embarrassed over this censorship.”

“Sadly, I see so many innocent posts that are marked as sensitive,” the user, @sammyrisley, wrote. “It is almost as bad as Twitter,” a further MAGA-loving user declared.

“Thought Trump was all about the Truth!!!!” another user exclaimed.
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#2945820 24-Jul-2022 10:13

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Oh Trump loves the truth, just as long as it's a truth he wants to hear. Otherwise, it's "an attack" and should be shut down.

A long read about Trump's cult: https://theintercept.com/2022/07/22/trump-cult-jan-6-hearings-pence/

Also I thought this was quite clever:

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