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#2954028 12-Aug-2022 18:40

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"DOJ requests court unseal Trump search warrant"

Subheading: "Trump's team is considering challenging the move. They must respond by 3 p.m. ET Friday."

Sure... Let's complain about the witch hunt but hide the actual facts presented. Nothing to see here, citizen.

The US right is always driven by perverse incentives into decisions that don't appear to make much sense unless you understand what's behind them. For example the NRA always strongly opposed any legal questions around the 2nd Amendment and its supposed guarantee that anyone can own as many guns of any kind as they like. If they lose and it doesn't give that right then, well, they lose. If they win and it does give that right then they stand to lose a lot of their funding, which is based on scaremongering around $bogeyman-du-jour taking away your second amendment rights and you need to give us money to prevent this. So winning an important case like this would actually be a loss for them.

In the same manner, whatever motivation Trump's lawyers have, it won't be the same as what you're expecting.

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#2954066 12-Aug-2022 22:30

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😃 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/08/11/florida-man-fly-banner-trump-mar-lago/10303574002/

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#2954082 13-Aug-2022 06:12

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FBI thinks Trump has taken documents relating to weapons of mass destruction

i wonder if George W Bush is behind all this ...

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/12/politics/nuclear-documents-trump-showdown-justice-department/index.html

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#2954098 13-Aug-2022 08:40

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Criminal case against Trump’s right-hand man, Allen Weisselberg, is about a $1.7 million perk.

Trump’s right-hand man, Allen Weisselberg, has already thrown Trump's fixer Michael Cohen under the bus to protect himself.

Frankly Allen Weisselberg is naïve, arrogant or both. In custody, he incriminated himself while chatting with the prosecutors about his long commute from upstate Long Island. Somehow he thought it wouldn't be used against him.

Bloomberg: Trump Perks for Weisselbergs Included Free Rent, Tax Preparer

When Allen Weisselberg’s son got married in 2004, Donald Trump offered the young couple a generous wedding gift: use of an apartment, overlooking Central Park, rent-free.

Market rent on the apartment, owned by the Trump Organization, would have totaled hundreds of thousands of dollars over the seven years the couple wound up living there. The move -- carrying tax implications as well as benefits -- in some ways brought the family nearer to the living arrangements of Trump’s own children.

The unusual deal is one of several that benefited the family of Weisselberg, Trump’s right-hand man on all matters financial.
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CBS News: New York judge rules criminal case against the Trump Organization and former CFO Allen Weisselberg can proceed

A New York State judge ruled Friday that a criminal fraud and tax evasion prosecution against the Trump Organization and its former CFO, Allen Weisselberg, can proceed.

...September, he will hear arguments on a request by Weisselberg's team to suppress evidence from two Manhattan district attorney investigators who he said "struck up small talk" while Weisselberg was in custody.

Attorneys for Weisselberg have argued he was essentially tricked into divulging information he might otherwise not have with a lawyer present.
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#2954099 13-Aug-2022 08:47

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Vox: How Trump changed Facebook

...Early in the 2016 campaign, then-presidential candidate Donald Trump tested the limits of Facebook’s rules against hateful speech, at the same time that the company became a vehicle of political exploitation by foreign actors.

Facebook’s first test: dealing with a 2015 Facebook post from Trump calling for a “total and complete shutdown” of Muslims entering the US. While some inside the company saw a strong argument that Trump’s comments violated Facebook’s rules against religious hate speech, the company decided to keep the post up. Until then, most Facebook employees had never before grappled with the possibility that their platform could be used to stoke such division by a political candidate for the highest position of office.

“What do you do when the leading candidate for president posts an attack … on [one of the] the biggest religion[s] in the world?” former Facebook employee and Democratic lobbyist Crystal Patterson told us.

And it wasn’t just national politicians Facebook had to worry about, but foreign adversaries, too. Despite CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s initial post-election comments dismissing the “pretty crazy idea” that fake news on the platform could have influenced the elections, it soon became clear that propaganda from Russian Facebook accounts had reached millions of American voters — causing an unprecedented backlash and forcing the company to reckon with its culpability in influencing global politics.
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#2954184 13-Aug-2022 11:44

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The NY Times - Documents Taken From Trump’s Home Included Classified Material

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The seized documents were part of an inquiry into violation of the Espionage Act and two other laws.

A list of documents removed from former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida residence, Mar-a-Lago, includes materials marked as top secret and meant to be viewed only in secure government facilities, according to a copy of the warrant obtained by The New York Times.

Federal agents who executed the warrant did so to investigate potential crimes associated with violations of the Espionage Act, which outlaws the unauthorized retention of national security information that could harm the United States or aid a foreign adversary; a federal law that makes it a crime to destroy or conceal a document to obstruct a government investigation; and another statute associated with unlawful removal of government materials. ...

In total, agents collected four sets of top secret documents, three sets of secret documents and three sets of confidential documents.

Included in the manifest were also files pertaining to the pardon of Roger J. Stone Jr., a longtime associate of Mr. Trump, and material about President Emmanuel Macron of France.

The written inventory - a document provided by investigators after a search - says the FBI took about 20 boxes of items from the Mar-a-Lago Club on Monday.

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#2954193 13-Aug-2022 12:34

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What possible use could documents about nuclear weapons be to Trump after he left office?

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#2954195 13-Aug-2022 12:43

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SJB:What possible use could documents about nuclear weapons be to Trump after he left office?

"Asylum" in North Korea?

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#2954196 13-Aug-2022 12:44

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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trumps-allies-have-no-clue-how-to-respond-to-report-of-nuclear-docs-at-mar-a-lago-1396232/

I bet they don't!

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#2954197 13-Aug-2022 12:52

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PDF search warrant and receipt for documents retrieved

https://www.politico.com/f/%3Fid%3D00000182-9397-d085-abb6-bb97a6f90000&ved=2ahUKEwi0vajzy8L5AhW5ZWwGHdk0BrEQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2U3gwM6sGVl2BEcYBScUei

Top secret documents and Roger Stone's pardon among other things.

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#2954203 13-Aug-2022 13:58

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SJB:

What possible use could documents about nuclear weapons be to Trump after he left office?

Very useful in bribery and ransom, one of the key elements of a person maintaining a certain security clearance surrounds their finacial stability and issues around how classified information and documents can be used by them an bribes and ransom. Its not hard to imagine how this yellow headed f2ck could happily hold government to task with the bribe of releasing ill gotten material

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#2954205 13-Aug-2022 14:13

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The galling thing, here, is that trump won't be frightened by any of this and I'll be very surprised if he even gets charged, let alone convicted.

Sooo frustrating.

I can hope, though.

What with this, and his tax fraud investigation, any normal person would be terrified. But not this teflon b'tard.

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#2954315 13-Aug-2022 15:45

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SJB:
What possible use could documents about nuclear weapons be to Trump after he left office?

He's a narcissist, having these Important Documents reinforces the fact that he's still an Important Person.

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#2954317 13-Aug-2022 15:53

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If he gets put in "bracelets" (handcuffs) he will say:

These are the best bracelets, only I have the best bracelets!

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#2954390 14-Aug-2022 07:54

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Some interesting stories from overnight:

https://www.axios.com/2022/08/13/cracks-emerge-in-gops-mar-a-lago-response <<< the GOP can't decide how to defend the raid, especially after Trump went after Hillary in 2016 with his "lock her up" bs

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/8/12/23302835/trump-fbi-mar-a-lago-search-warrant <<< a good, long read that walks through how he usually plays things whenever anything bad befalls him. I suspect we're going to see this playbook used a lot in the runup to the 2024 election.

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