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#3075971 14-May-2023 10:11

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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/13/pollsters-have-a-trump-problem-can-they-fix-it-in-time-for-2024-00096780

If I was a pollster, I'd be worried too. 2016 was an absolute shambles for that industry.

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#3075972 14-May-2023 10:11

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The truth is it is shady financing.

Washington Post: Trust linked to porn-friendly bank could gain a stake in Trump’s Truth Social

An obscure financial entity with connections to a Caribbean-island bank that bills itself as a top payment service for adult entertainment sites would gain a sizable stake in former president Donald Trump’s media company if its merger deal proceeds, according to internal documents a company whistleblower has shared with federal investigators and The Washington Post.

Yet the role ES Family Trust would assume in Trump Media and Technology Group has never been officially disclosed to the Securities and Exchange Commission, "SEC", or to shareholders in Digital World Acquisition, the special purpose acquisition company, or SPAC, that has proposed merging with Trump’s company.

The companies also have not disclosed to shareholders or the SEC that Trump Media paid a $240,000 finder’s fee for helping to arrange the $8 million loan deal with ES Family Trust — or that the recipient of that fee was an outside brokerage associated with Patrick Orlando, then Digital World’s CEO.

Where ES Family Trust obtained the money, and who is behind the trust, remain publicly unknown, omissions that unnerved some of Trump Media’s top executives when they first learned of the loan in late 2021, according to Will Wilkerson, a whistleblower who at the time was the company’s executive vice president of operations.

Republican members of Congress and Trump supporters have complained for months that the SEC’s year-long delay in approving the merger has been fueled by anti-Trump bias and a “woke political agenda.” Trump Media’s primary business is the social media site Truth Social.

But the financial tangle offers a possible explanation for why the SEC has yet to approve the deal, said Michael Ohlrogge, a New York University law professor who studies SPACs. He called the deal unusual and rife with questionable decisions and potential conflicts of interest.
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#3075981 14-May-2023 10:59

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Rikkitic: Trump found guilty of 'sexual abuse' (not rape). He still has to pay five million though.

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https://news.yahoo.com/trump-rips-enemies-ignores-melania-161328403.html >> such a caring, thoughtful orange man, isn't he.

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#3076419 15-May-2023 15:45

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Funny reading all the about-turns by most of the Trump flip-floppers here: https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/magazine-trump-flip-flops/index.html

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#3076456 15-May-2023 17:55

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Even Josh Hawley at less than 100% on some of the cnn town hall comments

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/senate-republicans-trump-town-hall-claims/index.html

Not that it matters because they will all support Trump for president if he wins the Repubican Party nomination.

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#3076461 15-May-2023 18:20

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gzt: Josh Hawley

I posted about him in the Deplorables thread re a review for his book, but it's worth repeating here too 😃 https://theintercept.com/2023/05/14/josh-hawley-book-masculinity/

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#3076485 15-May-2023 21:46

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Some additional headlines I saw tonight:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/evangelical-leader-congregations-either-divided-213723182.html >> I bet they're divided! He's a very divisive person

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-lays-into-cnns-kaitlan-collins-again-after-town-hall-debacle >> I dunno if it's just me, but in that pic he just looks really old.

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#3076732 16-May-2023 10:47

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As usual, even if Trump is guilty of conflict of interest, it'll mean nothing to his base.

New York Times: Supreme Court Takes Up Case on Trump Hotel Records

The Supreme Court announced on Monday that it would decide whether individual members of Congress are entitled to sue a government agency for information about a Washington hotel once owned by former President Donald J. Trump.

Days before Mr. Trump left office, a divided panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled that members of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, all Democrats and making up less than a majority of the panel’s members, had standing to sue for access to government documents concerning possible conflicts of interest at the Trump International Hotel.

A company owned by Mr. Trump and his children had leased the facility, once known as the Old Post Office Building, in 2013. The lease said that no “elected official of the government of the United States” shall “be admitted to any share or part of this lease, or to any benefit that may arise therefrom.”

Critics said Mr. Trump’s ownership of the hotel while president raised a host of ethical questions, some of constitutional dimension.
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#3076797 16-May-2023 14:21

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https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4002482-gop-fears-trumps-problems-with-suburban-women-will-only-get-worse/

If I was in the Republican party (and had half a brain) I'd be fairly worried about this too.

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#3076802 16-May-2023 14:44

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quickymart:

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4002482-gop-fears-trumps-problems-with-suburban-women-will-only-get-worse/

If I was in the Republican party (and had half a brain) I'd be fairly worried about this too.

Excuse me. Republican Party and brains. That’s a contradiction in terms is it not. They are like sheep and follows mein fuhrer around on a lead.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#3076866 16-May-2023 15:22

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I almost added that part - I wouldn't want to be a part of the Republican Party anyway!

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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/17/politics/timothy-parlatore-trump-legal-team/index.html

Rats deserting a sinking ship?

The former president’s legal team has been rife with infighting for several months as his attorneys have dealt with the multiple investigations facing him amid his third run for office. Trump has privately expressed unhappiness with his large legal bills and asked why the investigations, namely the documents one, have not yet gone away.

I dunno why, it's not like he ever, ever pays them.

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Published before Trump became president. A "knave" is a dishonest or unscrupulous man.

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Scientific American: Trump’s Appeal: What Psychology Tells Us

It is easy and common to dismiss those whose political positions we disagree with as fools or knaves—or, more precisely, as fools led by knaves. Indeed, the inability of even the most experienced pundits to grasp the reality of Donald Trump's political ascendency in the 2016 presidential race parallels an unprecedented assault on the candidate and his supporters, which went so far as to question their very grip on reality.

So it was that when a Suffolk University/USA Today poll asked 1,000 people in September 2015 to describe Trump in their own terms, the most popular response was “idiot/jerk/stupid/dumb,” followed by “arrogant” and “crazy/nuts,” and then “buffoon/clown/comical/joke.”

Similarly, Trump's followers were dismissed in some media accounts as idiots and bigots. Consider this March 2016 headline from a commentary in Salon: “Hideous, Disgusting Racists: Let's Call Donald Trump and His Supporters Exactly What They Are.”

Such charges remind us of Theodore Abel's fascinating 1938 text Why Hitler Came into Power, but first let us be absolutely explicit: We are not comparing Trump, his supporters or their arguments to the Nazis. Instead our goal is to expose some problems in the ways that commentators analyze and explain behaviors of which we disapprove.

In 1934 Abel traveled to Germany and ran an essay competition, offering a prize for autobiographies of Nazi Party members. He received around 600 responses, from which he was able to glean why so many Germans supported Adolf Hitler. Certainly many essays expressed a fair degree of anti-Semitism and some a virulent hatred of Jews. In this sense, party members were indeed racists or, at the very least, did not object to the party's well-known anti-Semitic position. But this is very different from saying that they joined and remained in the party primarily or even partially because they were racists. Abel discovered that many other motives were involved, among them a sense of the decline of Germany, a desire to rediscover past greatness, a fear of social disorder and the longing for a strong leader.

We would argue that the same is true of those who supported Trump.
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kingdragonfly: Published before Trump became president. A "knave" is a dishonest or unscrupulous man. Still relevant ...

Also still relevant ...

Here are 7 other archaic words for Trump:

1. Mountebank (moun·te·bank; noun): A dishonest person.

2. Iracund (ira·cund; adjective): Easily provoked to anger.

3. Nescience (ne·science; noun): Lack of knowledge or awareness.

4. Bedlamite (bed·lam·ite; noun): Madman, lunatic.

5. Malapert (mal·a·pert; adjective): Impudently bold and insulting.

6. Facinorous (fa·cin·o·rous; adjective): Atrociously wicked.

7. Phantasmagoria (phan·tas·ma·go·ria; noun): A confusing or strange scene that is like a dream because it is always changing in an odd way.

... so Donald is a Facinorous Mountebank. 😶

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