Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3116551 16-Aug-2023 08:10

Why the Georgia prosecutions are so dangerous for Trump and his co-conspirators:

The NY Times - Why Pardons in Georgia Are Especially Hard to Get

1. A president’s pardons apply only to federal crimes.

2. People convicted of state crimes are eligible to apply for pardons only five years after they have started serving their sentences.

3. Even then, it’s not the governor who decides but the State Board of Pardons and Paroles. The board’s five members are appointed by the governor to seven-year terms, an effort to insulate them from political pressure.

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#3116555 16-Aug-2023 08:21

I still think how deplorable you have to be, supporting Trump and being an African-American at the same time.

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#3116557 16-Aug-2023 08:42

Reuters - Georgia indictment: How will Trump defend himself? Will it work?

Aug 15 (Reuters) - Donald Trump is likely to claim that his right to free speech and genuine concerns about voter fraud protect him from charges that he pressured Georgia officials to change the results of the 2020 election in his favor.

But legal experts say the case appears to be a straightforward fraud prosecution that will turn on whether Trump knowingly broke the law, regardless of whether he believed his actions were justified.

"Even if he thought he had a right to do what he did, that doesn't justify fraudulent activity," said former federal prosecutor E. Danya Perry. "If you believe money in someone else's bank account is rightfully yours, that doesn't mean you can embezzle it."

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#3116570 16-Aug-2023 09:13

freitasm: I still think how deplorable you have to be, supporting Trump and being an African-American at the same time.

Or being a woman.

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#3116607 16-Aug-2023 10:07

Americans LOVE watching court cases with infamous people on the TV.

Perhaps Trump will ask for it to be broadcast only on Twitter, so no one can watch it.

Deadline: Georgia Judge Says Cameras Will Be Allowed To Cover Indictment As Media Awaits New Charges Against Donald Trump

If Donald Trump is indicted this week, viewers may see something they haven’t in his three previous cases: Televised proceedings.

A judge who is presiding over grand jury deliberations in Fulton County, GA on Monday said that media will be allowed to film and photograph the moment when an indictment is handed down, according to The Messenger.

“If a grand jury presents an indictment, that’s usually in the afternoon, and you can film and photograph that,” said Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney.

It’s still unclear whether cameras would be allowed in other proceedings, like Trump’s potential arraignment, but Georgia law contrasts to other jurisdictions where the president has been criminally charged. Federal courts prohibit televising or audio recording of criminal proceedings. In New York, where Trump is facing criminal charges related to hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, still cameras were allowed for a brief period during the former president’s arraignment but then were barred from the proceedings.

Georgia law, though, generally allows cameras in courts unless a judge has a major reason to restrict them.

Media organizations are expected to press for some kind of camera coverage of Trump’s federal criminal proceedings, despite current rules.

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#3116661 16-Aug-2023 11:20

MELANIA CONCERNED ABOUT TRUMP'S AVAILABILITY TO ATTEND DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS

PALM BEACH (The Borowitz Report)—Shortly after a Georgia grand jury indicted Donald J. Trump for trying to overturn the 2020 election, Melania Trump expressed concern that her husband’s mounting court dates could make him unavailable to attend “any divorce proceedings that might come up.”

Stressing that she was speaking hypothetically, Mrs. Trump said that the former President’s blizzard of court appearances would present scheduling challenges “if someone wanted to divorce him.”

“I know that stealing documents, falsifying business records, and subverting democracy are serious matters, but what if if prosecuting him means that someone should have to be married to him a day longer than she can stand?” she asked. “There’s a human cost to this.”

Mrs. Trump urged the judges overseeing her husband’s multiple trials to delay them until after any divorce proceedings are concluded. “I think that be best,” she said.

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#3116687 16-Aug-2023 12:03

kingdragonfly: Americans LOVE watching court cases with infamous people on the TV.

Perhaps Trump will ask for it to be broadcast only on Twitter, so no one can watch it.

Deadline: Georgia Judge Says Cameras Will Be Allowed To Cover Indictment As Media Awaits New Charges Against Donald Trump

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Georgia law, though, generally allows cameras in courts unless a judge has a major reason to restrict them.

Media organizations a re expected to press for some kind of camera coverage of Trump’s federal criminal proceedings, despite current rules.

He will either listen to his lawyers and keep his mouth shut or because there are cameras he will grandstand in his narcissistic psychopathic makeup and tendencies.

Either way it will make for interesting viewing.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#3116700 16-Aug-2023 12:25

FineWine: He will either listen to his lawyers and keep his mouth shut or because there are cameras he will grandstand in his narcissistic psychopathic makeup and tendencies.

Either way it will make for interesting viewing.

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Narcissism
Running the show
In his mind only, impressing the public with his legal skills

The angel on Trump's right shoulder

Listens to his lawyers
As they say in Georgia: "the sense God gave geese"

I'd bet a month's wages on Trump's devil.

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#3116701 16-Aug-2023 12:39

FineWine: He will either listen to his lawyers and keep his mouth shut or because there are cameras he will grandstand in his narcissistic psychopathic makeup and tendencies. ...

Not to worry - Donald tells us that all charges will be dropped soon ...

The NY Times - Trump Plans to Release 100-Page Report on Georgia Election Fraud Claims

August 15 2023

Hours after former President Donald J. Trump was indicted in Georgia on charges accusing him of a conspiracy to subvert the 2020 election, his aides and allies awoke to a social-media post from the Republican front-runner inviting people to a news conference on Monday.

“A Large, Complex, Detailed but irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,” Mr. Trump wrote on his social media site, Truth Social, just before 9 a.m.

He added that it will be a “CONCLUSIVE Report” after which “all charges should be dropped against me & others.”

The report is a document of more than 100 pages that was compiled at least in part by Liz Harrington, a Trump communications aide who is often described as among the true believers in his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him through widespread fraud.

It's 100 pages long, so it must be true. 🙃🙂🙃🙂

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#3116705 16-Aug-2023 12:47

kingdragonfly:

I'd bet a month's wages on Trump's devil.

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#3116731 16-Aug-2023 13:41

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It's 100 pages long, so it must be true. 🙃🙂🙃🙂

It will all be in caps so it's actually only a single sentence.

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#3116736 16-Aug-2023 13:48

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“A Large, Complex, Detailed but irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,” Mr. Trump wrote on his social media site, Truth Social, just before 9 a.m.

He went on to say "You can't miss it, it'll be held between the landscaping place, the dildo shop, and the crematorium".

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#3116740 16-Aug-2023 13:57

neb:

“A Large, Complex, Detailed but irrefutable REPORT on the Presidential Election Fraud which took place in Georgia is almost complete & will be presented by me at a major News Conference at 11:00 A.M. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey,” Mr. Trump wrote on his social media site, Truth Social, just before 9 a.m.

He went on to say "You can't miss it, it'll be held between the landscaping place, the dildo shop, and the crematorium".

... as booked by Rudy ...

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#3116742 16-Aug-2023 13:59

Sideface: The report is a document of more than 100 pages that was compiled at least in part by Liz Harrington, a Trump communications aide

Liz Harrington, a Trump communications aide, and Linda Yaccarino, Twitter's CEO, said at the same time:

"Wow, I thought my job was pointless. Jinx! Buy me a coke"

Rough language. Not safe for work

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#3116807 16-Aug-2023 15:23

The Washington Post (15 Aug 23) - Georgia on Trump’s mind - golfing in the Peach State.

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