Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3208635 20-Mar-2024 15:31

If that fails, there's always this, right? https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/19/politics/trump-supreme-court-immunity-response/index.html 🙄

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#3208656 20-Mar-2024 16:34

Not to sound pessimistic, but I could see the Supreme Court delaying the trial till after November as a compromise.

Reminds me of a joke about a compromise.

Drunk talking to a bartender: "Would you have sex with me for $100?"

Bartender: "Get out of my bar!"

Drunk: "Wait a moment. Would you have sex with me for $100,000?"

Bartender thinking hard. "OK. deal. $100,000. "

Drunk: "OK, how about $200?"

Bartender: "What happened to $100,000? What do you think I am?"

Drunk: "We have already established that. We're just negotiating the price"

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#3208658 20-Mar-2024 16:50

Bartender: "What happened to $100,000? Who do you think I am?"

Drunk: "We have already established that. We're just negotiating the price."

Edit with a non-bad word ending...

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#3208666 20-Mar-2024 17:34

A con man, a fraudster, a rapist and a clown walk into a bar.
The bartender says, "Nice to see you Mr.Trump. Diet coke?"

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#3208670 20-Mar-2024 17:40

Just a guess here, but if someone is a Trump golfing buddy and regularly raising criminal bonds for millions of dollars each, you'd guess that person is a criminal enabler.

It seems appropriate that Trump is appealing a massive business fraud case, lying about his wealth, and can't effectively get a loan to appeal the conviction

Insurance Business Magazine: Lockton president, golfing buddy, bond hunter

When Donald Trump argued before a New York court that meeting a $464 million bond requirement presents a “practical impossibility” the assertion came with the backing of Gary Giulietti, the president of North East Series at Lockton Companies, the largest private insurance brokerage in the world.

Guilietti, whose Palm Beach Gardens office is just minutes away from Trump’s Mar-a-lago, is no stranger to the high profile attention that surrounds the ex-president. Golf partner, business partner and staunch defender, late last year he reportedly said that Zurich Insurance Group’s attempt at due diligence was looking at “Airballs and witchcraft”.

During the fraud trial, he said he had received $1.2 million in commissions from the Trump Organization. He added that he hadn’t billed for his testimony because he anticipated that payment “would be included in our overall relationship year over year.”

Judge Engoron wrote that in more than 20 years as a judge, he had “never encountered an expert witness who not only was a close personal friend of a party, but also had a personal financial interest in the outcome of the case for which he was being offered as an expert.”

Giulietti, who has nearly five decades in the insurance field, has stated that the prospect of securing an appeal bond of this magnitude is practically unfeasible given the situation. Even if he found one, the likely cost would be $18.5million. Regular surety bonds offer 10-20% commissions.
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#3208784 20-Mar-2024 18:58

kingdragonfly: Just a guess here, but if someone is a Trump golfing buddy and regularly raising criminal bonds for millions of dollars each, you'd guess that person is a criminal enabler.

It seems appropriate that Trump is appealing a massive business fraud case, lying about his wealth, and can't effectively get a loan to appeal the conviction

Insurance Business Magazine: Lockton president, golfing buddy, bond hunter

When Donald Trump argued before a New York court that meeting a $464 million bond requirement presents a “practical impossibility” the assertion came with the backing of Gary Giulietti, the president of North East Series at Lockton Companies, the largest private insurance brokerage in the world.

Guilietti, whose Palm Beach Gardens office is just minutes away from Trump’s Mar-a-lago, is no stranger to the high profile attention that surrounds the ex-president. Golf partner, business partner and staunch defender, late last year he reportedly said that Zurich Insurance Group’s attempt at due diligence was looking at “Airballs and witchcraft”.

During the fraud trial, he said he had received $1.2 million in commissions from the Trump Organization. He added that he hadn’t billed for his testimony because he anticipated that payment “would be included in our overall relationship year over year.”

Judge Engoron wrote that in more than 20 years as a judge, he had “never encountered an expert witness who not only was a close personal friend of a party, but also had a personal financial interest in the outcome of the case for which he was being offered as an expert.”

Giulietti, who has nearly five decades in the insurance field, has stated that the prospect of securing an appeal bond of this magnitude is practically unfeasible given the situation. Even if he found one, the likely cost would be $18.5million. Regular surety bonds offer 10-20% commissions.
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its not the size of the bond that is the issue, its just they know he will lose.

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#3208788 20-Mar-2024 19:26

He'll just have to sell one of his properties.

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#3208789 20-Mar-2024 19:26

sir1963:

its not the size of the bond that is the issue, its just they know he will lose.

Yeah, and the offense he committed? Massively overvaluing his real-estate in order to get loans. As if anyone in their right mind is going to lend him money against his properties ever again, even if they weren't already mortgaged up to the eyeballs.

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#3208791 20-Mar-2024 19:30

SaltyNZ:

Yeah, and the offense he committed? Massively overvaluing his real-estate in order to get loans. As if anyone in their right mind is going to lend him money against his properties ever again, even if they weren't already mortgaged up to the eyeballs.

Trump: "I just need $500 million. You can have my Trump building in NYC; it's worth $1.8 billion..."

Bond man: <eye rolls>

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#3208819 20-Mar-2024 20:00

You'll remember lawyer Alina Habba lost Trump hundreds of millions, with interest, accruing by at least $112,000 per day.

The Daily Beast: Trump Golf Club Settlement Hangs Alina Habba Out to Dry

Donald Trump’s golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, paid $82,500 last week to settle a lawsuit alleging that it had silenced a sexually harassed waitress by tricking her into an unfair hush money deal
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But the curiously worded contract left the former president’s own attorney Alina Habba—a rising star in his orbit—wide open to getting sued herself.
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Habba faces the wrath of Alice Bianco, who was once a waitress at Trump National Golf Club Bedminster, the real estate tycoon’s summertime abode.

Bianco feels betrayed by Habba, who was one of her Bedminster regulars until, her lawsuit says, Habba posed as a concerned friend giving legal advice about how to address alleged sexual harassment by a supervisor—only to abuse that relationship and “fraudulently inducing” her to “quickly agree to unconscionable and illegal terms.”

The alleged ploy, rapidly paced over just two weeks, gave Habba leverage to arrange a hush money deal that would curry favor with the former president and earn her way into his inner circle.
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The scandal concerning the toxic non-disclosure agreement at Bedminster threatens to expose what appears to be the strange origin story of a little-understood, up-and-coming lawyer who suddenly became a legal adviser to the former and possibly future president—just as he faces four criminal indictments and cases that seek to empty his considerable bank accounts.

Bianco is now preparing to sue the club all over again, this time for sexual harassment. But she’s also targeting Habba with a potential fraud lawsuit too.
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[This week a Trump's golf club agreed to a settlement agreement] allowing the former waitress to sue Trump's lawyer Habba directly for the exact same issues.

The former waitress’ lawyer said the line was included to make sure Habba isn’t off the hook.

“My client is certainly considering suing her for fraud,” former waitress' lawyer said last week, noting that she is already in communication with Habba’s attorney.
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#3208989 20-Mar-2024 22:27

As she's apparently no longer employed by him, at least she'll still be able to keep busy...just defending herself, as opposed to the orange buffoon.

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#3209012 21-Mar-2024 09:13

The NY Times - Georgia Judge Allows Trump and Co-Defendants to Appeal Ruling on Prosecutor

20 March 2024

In a setback for Fani T. Willis, the Fulton County district attorney, a judge on Wednesday allowed defense lawyers in the Georgia criminal case against former President Donald J. Trump and his allies to try to appeal his ruling allowing Ms. Willis to stay on the case.

Defense lawyers needed permission from the judge, Scott McAfee of Fulton County Superior Court, to pursue an appeal, and he granted it in a two-paragraph order. Whether it slows down the election interference case against Mr. Trump and his 14 co-defendants remains unclear.

The Georgia Court of Appeals must still decide if it will weigh in on whether Ms. Willis has an untenable conflict of interest stemming from a romantic relationship she had with a lawyer she hired to run the Trump case, and on other related matters. ...

If the appeals court declines to take up the question, the matter will be resolved quickly. If it decides an appeal is warranted, the matter could take months to clear up. ...

Delay, delay, delay ... 🙄

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#3209052 21-Mar-2024 10:41

The Washington Post - Shadowing Trump’s attacks on mental fitness - his own father’s dementia

20 March 2024

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Trump avoids mention of his father’s Alzheimer’s disease as he lashes Biden for being ‘cognitively impaired’

Today, as the 77-year-old Trump seeks to return to the White House, he is using ["dementia"] as a political weapon, alleging without medical proof that President Biden, 81, is “cognitively impaired.” Those attacks follow a long pattern for the former president, who for years has bashed enemies as mentally frail while boasting in public about “acing” the Montreal Cognitive Assessment, a basic test that flags signs of early dementia. ...

Trump’s long fixation on mental fitness followed years of watching his father’s worsening dementia - which left him with an abiding concern that he might someday inherit the condition. ...

Trump’s father’s condition also drove a wedge into his family, which fell into years of lawsuits that alleged in part that Donald Trump sought to take advantage of his father’s dementia to wrest control of the family estate ...

Trump has long emphasized his belief in the importance of genetics. He has said he is a “super genius” because of his “great genes.” ...

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#3209057 21-Mar-2024 10:47

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/19/politics/trump-bond-deadline-panic/index.html >> I bet he's panicking! I love to watch him squirm, he so deserves it 😀

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