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  #1701196 11-Jan-2017 01:30
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Some of the things I heard about how Facebook is getting used in politics to target ads towards people with certain personality is quite scary. Apparently it is worked out from those radio button type surveys that you fill in on facebook. Your answers are apparently tracked against your name and they can work out what sort of personality you have and how you feel about things that are going on. The more surveys you fill in, the more accurate it gets. That info can then be used to create an advert that is targeted towards you that you are more likely to take notice of. It is very clever marketing, but I am not that comfortable with it being used for politics. I do wonder if we would have had the same result, if social media like this wasn't around.


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  #1701197 11-Jan-2017 01:36
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Fred99:

 

Some people in NZ like and admire Trump.  We'll see how they feel about that in 12 months time.

 

 

 

 

The way he is using social media to react to superficial stuff worries me. You would expect that someone in his position would just be tweeting light hearted tongue and check stuff, as a way of laughing it off, or ignoring such criticisms (eg the Streep speech) but that isn't occurring. What does he have to gain, apart from dividing peoples opinion? But I am guessing once he is president, he will get his smart phone taken away from him, and he will be given a dumb phone that can only make phone calls. Presidents don't tweet, which is a good thing.


 
 
 
 


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  #1701219 11-Jan-2017 07:58
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gzt: There's a good possibility Bush2 was just a warm up.


 

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  #1701224 11-Jan-2017 08:06
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mattwnz: Presidents don't tweet, which is a good thing.

 

 

That's not entirely true, Presidents can and do tweet. But the way Trump uses Twitter is unpresidented. 


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  #1701250 11-Jan-2017 09:15
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An excerpt from a Stuff article abut Mexico saying they won;t pay for the wall. I think this quote will be a key part of the reaction to Trumps trade stance.

 

 

 

 

"I think the uncertainty (over trade) is doing a lot of harm to investment decisions in the automotive sector and many other sectors," Videgaray said.

 

The foreign minister said Mexico would also need to undertake more trade missions than ever before in 2017 in Asia, Europe and Latin America to diversify its base.


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  #1701264 11-Jan-2017 10:15
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Fred99:

 

Not sure where the assumption comes from that "the Americans are less worried than the hand-wringing types here"?

 

Media and social media and comments from friends of mine in the USA indicate to me that very many Americans are very worried (and deeply mortified).

 

Some people in NZ like and admire Trump.  We'll see how they feel about that in 12 months time.

 

 

If that was intended for me, I can assure you, I neither like nor admire him in any way, though I do think a fair number of people here have climbed off the deep end in some of the criticism. There are attributes about his policies I don't despise and I am prepared to see how things pan out. I feel some of his criticism is completely over the top and unbalanced, and I see a lot of the behaviour remonstrated here, like intolerance, name calling and generally poor form, being demonstrated here and everywhere.

 

Are Americans less worried in general, sure they are, otherwise he wouldn't have been elected? There are a fair number of worried people all over the world, probably with good cause. Having said that, it's done.  

 

Having said that, it's done.  

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1701270 11-Jan-2017 10:35
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networkn:

 

 

 

Are Americans less worried in general, sure they are, otherwise he wouldn't have been elected?

 

 

That's in complete denial of the growing partisan division in US society.

 

Also, they are indeed much more "worried" on average than here -  that they're going to lose their jobs to Chinese or Mexicans, that domestic terrorism is a huge threat, that the ACA would result in forced euthanasia, that they need guns to protect themselves, that their president was a secret muslim, that a presidential candidate was involved in secret satanic rituals, that responsible global environmental management is a plot against their economy, that they're being invaded by Mexican "rapists" and need a wall.

 

Of course many in the US are worried about the impact of the Trump presidency on liberty and human rights, probably justifiably so as history shows us what happens when leaders are elected on the back of campaigns promoting worry and fear.

 

NZ is a relatively sane and rational society. 

 

 

 

 


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  #1701274 11-Jan-2017 10:45
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tdgeek:

 

An excerpt from a Stuff article abut Mexico saying they won;t pay for the wall. I think this quote will be a key part of the reaction to Trumps trade stance.

 

"I think the uncertainty (over trade) is doing a lot of harm to investment decisions in the automotive sector and many other sectors," Videgaray said.

 

The foreign minister said Mexico would also need to undertake more trade missions than ever before in 2017 in Asia, Europe and Latin America to diversify its base.

 

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-china-idUSKBN142027

 

"Yang said in the meeting that China's comprehensive partnership with Mexico was "flourishing" day by day, adding that China wishes to deepen cooperation on trade, investment, resources, infrastructure and financial services, according to a statement on the Chinese foreign ministry website 

 

Smart move by the Chinese.  They're breaking down walls as the US is planning on building them.


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  #1701286 11-Jan-2017 10:56
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Not sure if there will be a new world order but definitely will be a new family running America the new way.




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  #1701290 11-Jan-2017 10:58
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How to Remove Trump

 

Actually read this in Washington Post yesterday


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  #1701302 11-Jan-2017 11:07
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  #1701307 11-Jan-2017 11:16
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Pumpedd:

 

How to Remove Trump

 

 

Trump flunkies are going to remove Trump? Yeah right.

 

They'll be riding this gravy train all the way to the station.

 

 


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  #1701319 11-Jan-2017 11:35
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Fred99:

 

tdgeek:

 

An excerpt from a Stuff article abut Mexico saying they won;t pay for the wall. I think this quote will be a key part of the reaction to Trumps trade stance.

 

"I think the uncertainty (over trade) is doing a lot of harm to investment decisions in the automotive sector and many other sectors," Videgaray said.

 

The foreign minister said Mexico would also need to undertake more trade missions than ever before in 2017 in Asia, Europe and Latin America to diversify its base.

 

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-china-idUSKBN142027

 

"Yang said in the meeting that China's comprehensive partnership with Mexico was "flourishing" day by day, adding that China wishes to deepen cooperation on trade, investment, resources, infrastructure and financial services, according to a statement on the Chinese foreign ministry website 

 

Smart move by the Chinese.  They're breaking down walls as the US is planning on building them.

 

 

That is how I have always seen it. They are only 300 million people, thats not a whole lot in consumption needs. They will find that making in America is costly, the public will pay for that with their wallets. Importing will be costly as the US will be a low favoured market, given that us other countries will be tariffed or lose exports to the US. The globe will find a way, to produce goods without US involvement, and to export without US involvement. Its happening now. Ford pulled out of a 1.6 billion deal with Mexico, Mexico is seeking trade partnerships elsewhere, its all happening. 

 

Long term the world will be better off as the US will have less pull. Us other countries will be sorted out, amongst ourselves. China will dominate finance and trade, India will get a nice boost and be more involved in world trade. 2nd world countries probably ride the wave. A bit to like actually. Time to rejuvenate world trade and with that, relations. 


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  #1701327 11-Jan-2017 11:41
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

That is how I have always seen it. They are only 300 million people, thats not a whole lot in consumption needs. They will find that making in America is costly, the public will pay for that with their wallets. Importing will be costly as the US will be a low favoured market, given that us other countries will be tariffed or lose exports to the US. The globe will find a way, to produce goods without US involvement, and to export without US involvement. Its happening now. Ford pulled out of a 1.6 billion deal with Mexico, Mexico is seeking trade partnerships elsewhere, its all happening. 

 

Long term the world will be better off as the US will have less pull. Us other countries will be sorted out, amongst ourselves. China will dominate finance and trade, India will get a nice boost and be more involved in world trade. 2nd world countries probably ride the wave. A bit to like actually. Time to rejuvenate world trade and with that, relations. 

 

 

 

 

Our future lays with China, let the US do what ever they do and we should get on with building prosperity with Beijing.





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