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  #3211932 28-Mar-2024 18:01
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kingdragonfly: The Fifth Amendment guarantees several things such against self-incrimination. It's so famously used by mafia gangsters that it's a meme.

In a criminal case (where you can go to jail), it's not an admission of guilt. IN the US, you have the right to stay silent.

In a civil lawsuit, the judge can draw certain adverse inferences against you if you invoke Fifth Amendment privilege. In other words, it assumes that if someone doesn’t want to share something, it’s probably because it would make them look bad.

The High court has ruled disbarment are neither criminal nor civil in nature. It is a disciplinary action taken against a lawyer who has violated professional conduct rules.

Similar to a civil case, during a disbarment proceeding by invoking Fifth Amendment, the bar association can interpret this refusal as an admission of guilt.

NBC News: Election denier who Trump wanted to take over DOJ pleads the fifth amendment in disbarment hearing

An environmental lawyer whom Donald Trump wanted to take over the Justice Department in the days before the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol repeatedly asserted his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination during a disbarment hearing on Wednesday.

Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department civil lawyer with no criminal law experience, had wanted to investigate a conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was stolen, including via smart thermostats. Just hours before the Jan. 6 attack, Trump nearly made Clark the acting attorney general of the United States but backed off when Justice Department leadership threatened to resign en mass.

Federal authorities searched Clark's home in June 2022, and he now faces criminal charges in Georgia in the state racketeering case against Trump and others. Clark surrendered to authorities in August in that case and entered a not-guilty plea. He is also unindicted co-conspirator no. 4 in the federal election interference case brought by special counsel Jack Smith against Trump.

Clark briefly testified during a disciplinary hearing unfolding this week before the Ad Hoc Hearing Committee for the D.C. Board on Professional Responsibility, which is deciding whether Clark should lose his bar license for his involvement in attempts to overturn Trump's 2020 election loss.
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Another election-denying lawyer could be disbarred. No great loss here though, he's a traitor anyway: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/judge-recommends-john-eastman-disbarred-california-rcna145390

 

Plus he wore a stupid looking hat standing next to an endlessly-grinning Rudy Guiliani on January 6. He should be thrown in jail just because of his stupid outfit.

 

 


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  #3212000 29-Mar-2024 08:04
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deepred: As well as most, if not all, of Umberto Eco's 14-point checklist.


Off subject. If anyone looking for a fairy tale about Fascists for Easter watching. Way too intense for under 16's

Available via Youtube movies, or alternate methods.

Paste Magazine: Pan’s Labyrinth and Guillermo del Toro’s Anti-Fasci

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  #3212001 29-Mar-2024 08:17
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Ah, that’s a great movie.




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  #3212070 29-Mar-2024 14:11
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Donald Trump will face the first ever criminal trial of a former US president on 15 April over alleged hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels.

The stake are high. The 34 felony counts technically carry a maximum penalty of 136 years in prison, but legal experts say nothing near that is realistic, even if Trump were convicted on all counts

However even before the trial starts, two weeks away, Trump is pissing the judge off early, with an attack on his daughter that's both irrelevant and likely untrue.

Moreover there was already gag order against Trump, to try and stop his mafia boss strategy, which Trump clearly broke.

I expect he'll get away with a stern warning, then he'll do it again, followed by a small fine, then he'll do it again.

The Hill: Trump attacks on hush money judge’s daughter based on fake account: Court

Former President Trump — in lashing out against the daughter of hush money trial Judge Juan Merchan — pointed to a social media account that is no longer connected to Loren Merchan, according to a court spokesperson.
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the account in question was no longer associated with Loren Merchan, after she deleted the account approximately one year ago.
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Trump’s online remarks came less than 24 hours after Judge Merchan barred the former president from making public comments about witnesses, prosecutors, court staff or their family members “if those statements are made with the intent to materially interfere with” the case. The gag order does not preclude Trump from attacking Judge Merchan, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg or either of their families.
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  #3212074 29-Mar-2024 14:23
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kingdragonfly:  ... I expect he'll get away with a stern warning, then he'll do it again, followed by a small fine, then he'll do it again.

 

 

... and his adoring cult followers will pay for his fines ... as usual.  🙄

 

... and Donald will learn nothing ... as usual.  🙄





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  #3212093 29-Mar-2024 15:53
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What I find odd is if he's completely innocent (which he says he is), why the need to attack the judge and/or his family and/or anyone associated with the case?

 

If he is indeed innocent, what does he have to worry about?


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  #3212107 29-Mar-2024 16:46
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quickymart:   If he is indeed innocent, what does he have to worry about?

 

 





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  #3212109 29-Mar-2024 16:49
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https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/what-it-would-look-like-to-remove-judge-cannon >> The Bulwark takes a look at the very valid reasons why Jack Smith should look to get Aileen Cannon removed from Trump's case.


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  #3212119 29-Mar-2024 17:05
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quickymart:

 

What I find odd is if he's completely innocent (which he says he is), why the need to attack the judge and/or his family and/or anyone associated with the case?

 

If he is indeed innocent, what does he have to worry about?

 

 

Good question. But only a narcissistic sociopath will understand what Trump and people like him worry about. They see the world very differently than other people. Slights are major insults and will never be forgotten or forgiven.





'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

 

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3212121 29-Mar-2024 17:18
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geekIT:

 

Slights are major insults and will never be forgotten or forgiven.

 

 

You just reminded me of a passage I saw in This Will Not Pass, a book about Trump and his presidency, and it rings very true:

 

Republicans who had stepped out of line in more memorable ways usually found themselves defeated, driven into retirement, or pleading for forgiveness. As he prepared to run for reelection to the Senate in North Carolina in 2020, Thom Tillis recognized he had to make up with Trump for a severe infraction: In February 2019, he had written a column in the Washington Post criticizing the president’s use of emergency powers to repurpose federal money for a wall on the Mexican border. Trump had not forgiven him, and voters at home had noticed. Tillis was consistently running behind Trump on the ballot in polling for both parties.
“What am I supposed to do? Like go in and just, like, grovel?” Tillis had asked an adviser.
The answer had been, basically, yes. If Tillis—or any other politician—wanted to avoid the wrath of the country’s most powerful Republican politician, or if they wanted the speedy cooperation of the White House on matters of substance, then they needed to show the president he could count on them to behave with lasting gratitude and extreme deference.
It was the logic of a protection racket, more or less. You could be on Team Trump, with some modest guarantee of political safety, or you could be against the president.
That, in Donald Trump’s mind, was the meaning of reciprocity.

 

Very apt indeed.


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  #3212213 30-Mar-2024 09:20
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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/28/politics/trump-biden-campaign-contrast/index.html >> some commentary on how the two campaigns are playing out (very differently).

 

https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/america-first-means-a-world-in-chaos >> The Bulwark lays out what Trump's "America First" slogan really means.


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  #3212275 30-Mar-2024 13:10
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Today's Trumpy word:

 





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  #3212279 30-Mar-2024 13:38
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geekIT: only a narcissistic sociopath will understand what Trump and people like him worry about. They see the world very differently than other people. Slights are major insults and will never be forgotten or forgiven.


There would have been WWIII if the Chinese Xi Jinping asked to look at President's Trump's Rolex watch, and said

"This is a good quality counterfeit Rolex. See the watch crystal isn't flush, wrong rehaut surface finish, and the flawed lap polish.

Yes, it is a counterfeit.

Don't worry; it takes a connoisseur, someone with big brains, to spot counterfeits. This would fool most people in Florida.

Among world leaders, we generally prefer Audemars Piguet to Rolex."

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  #3212286 30-Mar-2024 14:01
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Trump the huckster

 

 

 

 





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  #3212344 30-Mar-2024 15:26
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Trump is a cockwomble (Thank you Susie Dent)

 

 

 


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