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JimsonWeed
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  #1703875 16-Jan-2017 06:50
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Fred99:

 

JimsonWeed:

 

It means, you can taint logic and reason with foul information and it cannot be forgotten.  It's nothing new but, it's far more prevalent today.

 

 

ROFL.  That was the basis for Trump's entire campaign - he had nothing else.

 

 

 

 

Imagine that... If he nothing else and STILL won, the Democrats must have really been grasping at straws.


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  #1703876 16-Jan-2017 06:51
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dejadeadnz:

 

We don't even need to debate whether Trump did in fact behave as per many of his accusers asserted. We know from his own unguarded words that he thinks sexual assault and sexual harassment of women is okay.

 

 

 

 

Innocent until proven guilty... He's as squeaky clean as Hillary "Butterfingers" Clinton.


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  #1703877 16-Jan-2017 06:54
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dejadeadnz:

 

Fred99:

 

Yes they did, and the cowards decided to cede to a populist megalomaniac's hate-preaching appeal to a class of uneducated losers - rather than face defeat.

 

 

In the worldview of Trump supporters and apologists, this is absolutely fine. You're in the political game to win and if enough people support genocide, for example, who are politicians to argue? The majority have spoken! The young f****rs didn't vote -- let them suffer!

 

 

 

 

It was a lot more than just the young that didn't vote.  A whole bunch of people chose not to vote.  Still though... Obama is finally out of office!  Praise the Lord!


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  #1703878 16-Jan-2017 06:57
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Fred99:

 

networkn:

 

gzt:
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gzt: That's a good question. While Fred99 is checking sources, you can explain to me why you believe the mainstream media is morally corrupt. It's a serious question.

 

Both have an agenda and it's become acceptable for them to throw whatever they want into the wind regardless of any substantial backing.  There's a saying in the legal arena; A skunk having entered the courtroom and subsequently removed, none can deny it's smell.  It means, you can taint logic and reason with foul information and it cannot be forgotten.  It's nothing new but, it's far more prevalent today.

 


I can guess you would put the many allegations of Trump's sexual assaults and inappropriate behaviour in that category:

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/all-the-women-accusing-trump-of-rape-sexual-assault.html

That list was current in October it's likely a few more came forward since then. These are not unsubstantiated rumors, these are sourced reports. News organisations would not be fulfilling thier responsibility to the public if they did not report these allegations.

 

Allegations are nothing more than an accusation of wrong-doing. I am not making a claim one way or the other, but don't confuse an allegation with an actual crime having been committed because one does not require the other!

 

 

Rolf Harris, Bill Cosby.

 

Trump's misogyny and objectification of women. You do realise what kind of "man" we're talking about here?

 

 

 

 

Yeah... a regular guy.  Ah well, a RICH, regular guy.  To be a man doesn't mean you have to "grope" anybody but, it also doesn't mean you have to be a wuss either.  Obama is a perfect example of a "squat to tinkle" wuss.

 

 


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  #1703880 16-Jan-2017 06:59
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Obama is what I consider to be a real man though.




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  #1703883 16-Jan-2017 07:07
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freitasm: Obama is what I consider to be a real man though.

 

 

 

Aye... we just have differing opinions.  I don't think he has enough stones to do anything... completely responsible for the pussification of America.  Hillary has more testosterone than he does.  In any event, he and his crap legacy are about to be flushed.


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  #1703906 16-Jan-2017 08:18
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JimsonWeed:

 

freitasm: Obama is what I consider to be a real man though.

 

 

 

Aye... we just have differing opinions.  I don't think he has enough stones to do anything... completely responsible for the pussification of America.  Hillary has more testosterone than he does.  In any event, he and his crap legacy are about to be flushed.

 

 

 

 

No you don't just have "differing opinions".

 

You're posting delusional nonsense.


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  #1703922 16-Jan-2017 08:45
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Fred99:

 

JimsonWeed:

 

freitasm: Obama is what I consider to be a real man though.

 

Aye... we just have differing opinions.  I don't think he has enough stones to do anything... completely responsible for the pussification of America.  Hillary has more testosterone than he does.  In any event, he and his crap legacy are about to be flushed.

 

 

No you don't just have "differing opinions".

 

You're posting delusional nonsense.

 

 

 

 

As for my opinion... it's just that, and opinion.  However, with regard to delusional... let's wait and see what he does, shall we?  :)

 

BTW, why should it matter to you?  You're a Kiwi, way down under with the rest of us, yeah?  It's not like you're going to be affected by any of this.  Be thankful TPP failed to get off the ground.  Otherwise, you and all the rest of us would be really take a hit from an economic perspective.

 

Keep those cards and letters coming!


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  #1703928 16-Jan-2017 09:04
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JimsonWeed:

 

 

 

 As for my opinion... it's just that, and opinion. 

 

 

No - you're trying to "qualify" that opinion by making stuff up (or repeating stuff "made up" by others).

 

 


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  #1704011 16-Jan-2017 11:28
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Fred99:

 

JimsonWeed:

 

 

 

 As for my opinion... it's just that, and opinion. 

 

 

No - you're trying to "qualify" that opinion by making stuff up (or repeating stuff "made up" by others).

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its called trolling...


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  #1704043 16-Jan-2017 12:15
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dejadeadnz:

 

We don't even need to debate whether Trump did in fact behave as per many of his accusers asserted. We know from his own unguarded words that he thinks sexual assault and sexual harassment of women is okay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow. Just Wow. A Lawyer that believes in guilty till proven innocent. 

 

If he DID do it (and is convicted), (as I made VERY clear earlier) then he should be hung out to dry and punished to the full extent of the law, but until the time he is convicted, he is innocent of those allegations.

 

Just in case you decide to twist my words, that does NOT mean I am an apologist, nor does it mean I support or like him, it simply means I believe he should be treated like anyone else accused of a crime. 

 

For the record, I found what he *said* revolting and foul.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #1704071 16-Jan-2017 12:55
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networkn:

 

dejadeadnz:

 

We don't even need to debate whether Trump did in fact behave as per many of his accusers asserted. We know from his own unguarded words that he thinks sexual assault and sexual harassment of women is okay.

 

 

Wow. Just Wow. A Lawyer that believes in guilty till proven innocent.  

 

 

Calm down and re-read what @dejadeadnz posted.


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  #1704072 16-Jan-2017 12:56
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Fred99:

 

networkn:

 

dejadeadnz:

 

We don't even need to debate whether Trump did in fact behave as per many of his accusers asserted. We know from his own unguarded words that he thinks sexual assault and sexual harassment of women is okay.

 

 

Wow. Just Wow. A Lawyer that believes in guilty till proven innocent.  

 

 

Calm down and re-read what @dejadeadnz posted.

 

 

I'm calm, reads the same way to me a second (and third) time.


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  #1704081 16-Jan-2017 13:04
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  #1704086 16-Jan-2017 13:16
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Fred99:

 

JimsonWeed:

 

 As for my opinion... it's just that, and opinion. 

 

 

No - you're trying to "qualify" that opinion by making stuff up (or repeating stuff "made up" by others).

 

 

 

 

What was made up?  It's just my opinion.  Obama was a sh*te president. 


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