Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 320 | 321 | 322 | 323 | 324 | 325 | 326 | 327 | 328 | 329 | 330 | 331 | 332 | 333 | 334 | 335 | 336 | 337 | 338 | 339 | 340 | ... | 998
5525 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1726223 25-Feb-2017 19:06
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

 

<snip>

 

... [Bannon] is a true fascist - and given his position, probably the most dangerous person on the planet.

 

 

Agreed.

 

It doesn't matter what definition of "fascist" you use, Bannon is a true fascist - and a real and present danger.  undecided

 

And nobody elected him. 

 

Trump is just the "useful idiot".





Sideface


18516 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1726224 25-Feb-2017 19:10
Send private message quote this post

dafman:

 

Just watched Trump's CPAC speech.

 

We are witnessing an attempt to establish a fascist state.

 

They may succeed.

 

This is scary.

 

 

CPAC is a party. Its like having a campaign meeting for the public, in an election campaign, and the only ones that are invited are the party faithful.

 

I think the fascist state is a BIG stretch. I do see your points, but what I see is so much focus on his antics, and not enough on reality, the Constitution, the lack of actually doing and talking about anything policy wise. Policies, action, talk on the policies and the future action has all but died. Its now all a reality show. And thus, it doesnt deserve much air time. 


 
 
 
 


3388 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1726239 25-Feb-2017 19:53
Send private message quote this post



In the past, the US used to be a various colonies. There was a real fear of the constitution writers of giving too much power to the president, who might come to resemble an uncontrollable king. There are still some checks and balances.

Springing forward to today, most TV entertainment and comedians are from Los Angeles and New York. These are places where Trump is both well-known and despised. They will not be "pulling any punches" with Trump (such as Saturday Night Live and various late night talk shows).

I've been reading through CNN's website. They're not pulling any punches either.

So while it's bad, I think the US has hit bottom. I don't see it becoming a dictatorship.

5525 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1726252 25-Feb-2017 20:46
Send private message quote this post

kingdragonfly:

<snip>

Springing forward to today, most TV entertainment and comedians are from Los Angeles and New York. These are places where Trump is both well-known and despised. They will not be "pulling any punches" with Trump (such as Saturday Night Live and various late night talk shows).

I've been reading through CNN's website. They're not pulling any punches either.

 

<snip>

 

 

For the Trump Faithful, if it's not on Fox, it didn't happen.  smile





Sideface


611 posts

Ultimate Geek


  # 1726261 25-Feb-2017 21:16
Send private message quote this post

https://youtu.be/l3WfPcn8f18

 

 

 

Sean Spicer saying they would ban media from the WH back in December.

 

 


8966 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1726273 25-Feb-2017 22:30
Send private message quote this post

throbb:

 

https://youtu.be/l3WfPcn8f18

 

 

 

Sean Spicer saying they would ban media from the WH back in December.

 

 

 

 

I presume you mean wouldn't because "That's what makes a democracy a democracy, versus a dictatorship." <Spicer in December>

 

 

 

 

 

 


8966 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1726286 25-Feb-2017 23:03
Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

dafman:

 

Just watched Trump's CPAC speech.

 

We are witnessing an attempt to establish a fascist state.

 

They may succeed.

 

This is scary.

 

 

CPAC is a party. Its like having a campaign meeting for the public, in an election campaign, and the only ones that are invited are the party faithful.

 

I think the fascist state is a BIG stretch. I do see your points, but what I see is so much focus on his antics, and not enough on reality, the Constitution, the lack of actually doing and talking about anything policy wise. Policies, action, talk on the policies and the future action has all but died. Its now all a reality show. And thus, it doesnt deserve much air time. 

 

 

Talk on future action hasn't died - it's just delayed by incompetence and an intense focus on campaigning.

 

What is coming out is that Bannon is running the White House, "grooming" Trump as populist leader.

 

Huge effort is going in to immunising Trump from impeachment by republican controlled houses.  It's working too, Trump has tremendous support from GOP voters (~80% approval).  That translates to ~40% approval by the public thus not consensus and an unprecedentedly low approval rating for a new president - but that's clearly not important, as driving the wedge is working. The USA is very dangerously divided.

 

You're wrong about it being a big stretch to a fascist state - Bannon is a fascist, he's smart, he is working to create a judeo-christian nationalist state.  He believes that history is a succession of pivotal events - and he's going to create one. Trump is merely his tool. We'll see how he'll evade constitutional roadblocks - Trump should have already been impeached - but so far no problem.

 

He has probably used and outsmarted Putin too, Bannon despises what he calls "corporatism" - but he also strongly despises Putin's oligarchy.


 
 
 
 


8966 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1726288 25-Feb-2017 23:10
Send private message quote this post

Sideface:

 

kingdragonfly:

<snip>

Springing forward to today, most TV entertainment and comedians are from Los Angeles and New York. These are places where Trump is both well-known and despised. They will not be "pulling any punches" with Trump (such as Saturday Night Live and various late night talk shows).

I've been reading through CNN's website. They're not pulling any punches either.

 

<snip>

 

 

For the Trump Faithful, if it's not on Fox, it didn't happen.  smile

 

 

The administration should be asked why Fox News and Breitbart need to be handed an advantage over the BBC and CNN etc.




5006 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1726331 26-Feb-2017 04:49
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

 

 

 

The administration should be asked why Fox News and Breitbart need to be handed an advantage over the BBC and CNN etc.

 

 

Why? Slimy Sean Spicer will spin some more of his apologist bovine poop about how unfair all them fake news outlets are to his glorious leader. undecided


5525 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1726333 26-Feb-2017 07:05
Send private message quote this post

I found this "poll" on OOKLA when doing a speed test this morning:



This takes you to:

Click to see full size

(click to enlarge)

I'm not sure whether the free Patriot Tactical Flashlight is only for those who vote Yes Send Her To Jail For Perjury & Treasonundecided





Sideface


3388 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1726360 26-Feb-2017 09:24
Send private message quote this post

I guess this advertiser knows his target audience (no pun intended).

In case anyone doesn't know what a "tactical flashlight" is, here's a snippet from the Patriot's website:

"Whether you serve in the military or law enforcement or you go hunting, there are plenty of times where you'll need to shoot your gun in suboptimal lighting. One easy fix to this annoying problem is installing a weapon light on your gun. A weapon light is designed to give you better vision and aim while you're in the dark. Having a weapon light will help you assess threats, locate problems, and navigate through unfamiliar locations. Weapon lights are an extremely helpful tool to help you become a more effective shooter"

18516 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1726381 26-Feb-2017 09:41
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

 

 

 

You're wrong about it being a big stretch to a fascist state - Bannon is a fascist, he's smart, he is working to create a judeo-christian nationalist state.  He believes that history is a succession of pivotal events - and he's going to create one. Trump is merely his tool. We'll see how he'll evade constitutional roadblocks - Trump should have already been impeached - but so far no problem.

 

He has probably used and outsmarted Putin too, Bannon despises what he calls "corporatism" - but he also strongly despises Putin's oligarchy.

 

 

I don't see how I am wrong as its my opinion. Whether he is a fascist or has fascist type leanings. I cannot see how implementing fascism in the US can happen. There is the Constitution, the will of the people, and the judges that will shut down any goings on., as they have already done. 

 

Is the issues with media control due to fascism, so next week its getting the military onside as a Trump-Bannon ally?  Or is it simply that Trumps ego and narcissistic attitudes rile him up so he wants to shut them down? We have seen that over and over for many many months.

 

The human race is old, and since the Industrial Revolution, it has come ahead in leaps and bounds, but its only been decades where the maturity at high levels has reached an acceptable level of global management, for most first world countries. Its 2017, not 1914, its a whole different world. Re the media, perhaps the judges will intervene, if the Constitution allows that, thats easy, look at the ban. POTUS overruled and cut down. I feel that too much weight is given to Trump and his cronies, and not enough to the Constitution, and the will of the people, let alone that his antics are 95% talk. 


Lock him up!
10962 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  # 1726388 26-Feb-2017 10:11
Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

 

 

 

I truly hope you are correct but 'eternal vigilance is the price of liberty'. I think it is dangerous to just expect that assaults on democracy will crumble in themselves, with no other action needed. To say it can't happen here is to ignore that it has happened before. America does have some strong democratic institutions, but a lot of angry people seem to be buying into Trump's populist BS and that is something to be alarmed about.

 

 

 

 





I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney
 


18516 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1726412 26-Feb-2017 10:27
Send private message quote this post

Rikkitic:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

 

I truly hope you are correct but 'eternal vigilance is the price of liberty'. I think it is dangerous to just expect that assaults on democracy will crumble in themselves, with no other action needed. To say it can't happen here is to ignore that it has happened before. America does have some strong democratic institutions, but a lot of angry people seem to be buying into Trump's populist BS and that is something to be alarmed about.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair points. But, this is a different world, IMHO. The angst against Trump goes far and wide. There are a lot of angry people buying into him, but I would love to see what an election tomorrow would bring. The only awesome thing that he has done was to win the election by targeting the poor, and his excellent marketing skills. I am unsure what options the judges have with the media crackdown, surely that will be un constitutional. If all this was in the 1940's, 1950' or 1960's, then it would be a very very serious issue.


5525 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1726414 26-Feb-2017 10:29
Send private message quote this post

 







Sideface


1 | ... | 320 | 321 | 322 | 323 | 324 | 325 | 326 | 327 | 328 | 329 | 330 | 331 | 332 | 333 | 334 | 335 | 336 | 337 | 338 | 339 | 340 | ... | 998
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel introduces cryogenic control chip to enable quantum computers
Posted 10-Dec-2019 21:32


Vodafone 5G service live in four cities
Posted 10-Dec-2019 08:30


Samsung Galaxy Fold now available in New Zealand
Posted 6-Dec-2019 00:01


NZ company oDocs awarded US$ 100,000 Dubai World Expo grant
Posted 5-Dec-2019 16:00


New Zealand Rugby Selects AWS-Powered Analytics for Deeper Game Insights
Posted 5-Dec-2019 11:33


IMAGR and Farro bring checkout-less supermarket shopping to New Zealand
Posted 5-Dec-2019 09:07


Wellington Airport becomes first 5G connected airport in the country
Posted 3-Dec-2019 08:42


MetService secures Al Jazeera as a new weather client
Posted 28-Nov-2019 09:40


NZ a top 10 connected nation with stage one of ultra-fast broadband roll-out completed
Posted 24-Nov-2019 14:15


Microsoft Translator understands te reo Māori
Posted 22-Nov-2019 08:46


Chorus to launch Hyperfibre service
Posted 18-Nov-2019 15:00


Microsoft launches first Experience Center worldwide for Asia Pacific in Singapore
Posted 13-Nov-2019 13:08


Disney+ comes to LG Smart TVs
Posted 13-Nov-2019 12:55


Spark launches new wireless broadband "Unplan Metro"
Posted 11-Nov-2019 08:19


Malwarebytes overhauls flagship product with new UI, faster engine and lighter footprint
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:48



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.