Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1810230 1-Jul-2017 19:06

MikeB4:

As bad as this soap opera is I believe that Trump will see his term out and there is probably a 50/50 chance that he will be re-elected in 2020.

Considering just how broken their system is, you could well be right.

The year 2020 seems a long way away.

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#1810239 1-Jul-2017 19:31

The issue with the orange don is that they're making his lies and BS the "new normal".

Next president should be Kamala Harris, but we know that wont happen.

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#1810241 1-Jul-2017 19:32

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MikeB4:

As bad as this soap opera is I believe that Trump will see his term out and there is probably a 50/50 chance that he will be re-elected in 2020.

Considering just how broken their system is, you could well be right.

The year 2020 seems a long way away.

Hard to believe we are only 1/8 into his term. Thats a lot of eighths to have to put up with.

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#1810267 1-Jul-2017 21:22

President Trump, Melting Under Criticism

NY Times Editorial Board - June 30, 2017

The final paragraph ..

The big question for all of us is whether with his foot-stamping and his vulgarity Mr. Trump, in defiance of all his predecessors, is creating a new model for future presidential behavior.
Can the etiquette of professional wrestling and reality television truly pass as acceptable for the Oval Office?
The breadth and depth of bipartisan repugnance for this president’s insults suggests, thankfully, that the answer may prove to be no.

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#1810281 1-Jul-2017 22:31

The speculation about Trump and dementia or drugs may or may not be correct. I doubt it. There is a simpler explanation for his behavior:

Atlantic: Dacher Keltner, a psychology professor at UC Berkeley, ended up after years of lab and field experiments. Subjects under the influence of power, he found in studies spanning two decades, acted as if they had suffered a traumatic brain injury—becoming more impulsive, less risk-aware, and, crucially, less adept at seeing things from other people’s point of view.

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#1810401 2-Jul-2017 13:35

I just discovered this item from a couple days ago on CNN. A Democratic representative is trying to get a bill passed to set up an expert committee under the provisions of the 25th amendment to assess the president's mental fitness to hold office. To those who insist that nothing can prevent Trump from serving out his term and running for another, I think this demonstrates the start of something big. It has a long way to go, but I believe it could amount to the first snowflakes of an avalanche. There are not yet any signs of open revolt amongst Republican members of Congress, but it is no secret that many are genuinely concerned about Trump's behaviour. Carl Bernstein has also stated that his presidency is 'malignant'. I remain convinced that if he continues to carry on as he has up to now, there is no way he will make it to the end of his term. Three and a half years is a very long time in politics. Most politicians, however misguided their beliefs, are at heart decent people. America has always had a remarkable capacity for self-correction and pulling back from the brink. Whether this particular bill goes anywhere or not, it indicates the beginning of a trend. There will be other initiatives, others expressing doubts, other demonstrations, other trickles feeding a stream that will become a torrent. This will move beyond partisan politics. At some point America will shrug, and rid itself of this historical blunder.

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#1810422 2-Jul-2017 15:16

Trump is making millions almost daily from presidential influence. No way he will let go of that office easily. Trump is a symptom of America's problems. Those problems won't go away with another president.

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#1810430 2-Jul-2017 15:56

Rikkitic:

I just discovered this item from a couple days ago on CNN. A Democratic representative is trying to get a bill passed to set up an expert committee under the provisions of the 25th amendment to assess the president's mental fitness to hold office. To those who insist that nothing can prevent Trump from serving out his term and running for another, I think this demonstrates the start of something big. It has a long way to go, but I believe it could amount to the first snowflakes of an avalanche. There are not yet any signs of open revolt amongst Republican members of Congress, but it is no secret that many are genuinely concerned about Trump's behaviour. Carl Bernstein has also stated that his presidency is 'malignant'. I remain convinced that if he continues to carry on as he has up to now, there is no way he will make it to the end of his term. Three and a half years is a very long time in politics. Most politicians, however misguided their beliefs, are at heart decent people. America has always had a remarkable capacity for self-correction and pulling back from the brink. Whether this particular bill goes anywhere or not, it indicates the beginning of a trend. There will be other initiatives, others expressing doubts, other demonstrations, other trickles feeding a stream that will become a torrent. This will move beyond partisan politics. At some point America will shrug, and rid itself of this historical blunder.

It hasn't got a hope of passing any time soon. The Republicans control both houses. They're not going to impeach Trump while there's still any hope of using him to carry on with their agenda. In any case, if Trump is out, Pence becomes president, and we just swap an incompetent tool for a competently evil president. He believes in all the worst aspects of Republican policy, and he's smart enough to get them done.

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#1810439 2-Jul-2017 16:18

Things are in a whole new category of awful. I certainly would not look forward to a Pence presidency but I believe the system there is well and truly broken and, thanks in large part to Trump, whatever happens next may not follow any rule book. He is clearly deranged and there will come a point when even many Republicans will say this can't go on any longer. Apart from that, Trump is not serving their agenda because his actions keep getting in the way. He can't get anything done and when enough people realise that won't change, something will happen.

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#1810556 2-Jul-2017 18:19

Rikkitic:

Things are in a whole new category of awful. I certainly would not look forward to a Pence presidency but I believe the system there is well and truly broken and, thanks in large part to Trump, whatever happens next may not follow any rule book. He is clearly deranged and there will come a point when even many Republicans will say this can't go on any longer. Apart from that, Trump is not serving their agenda because his actions keep getting in the way. He can't get anything done and when enough people realise that won't change, something will happen.

A good summary.

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#1810672 3-Jul-2017 08:40

Darn - I couldn't get Trump's tweet - which confirms that he's totally out of his mind - to embed in this post.

Link.

edit - embedding fixed I hope (my fault)

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#1810676 3-Jul-2017 08:48

Fred99:

Darn - I couldn't get Trump's tweet - which confirms that he's totally out of his mind - to embed in this post.

Link.

edit - embedding fixed I hope (my fault)

LOL and when you think it's already at gutter level. If he was smart he would get someone else to and deny all knowledge, but that dang ego got in the way.

Looking forward to the popularity polls in a week or so

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#1810685 3-Jul-2017 09:06

Yesterday's post was strangely prophetic:

President Trump, Melting Under Criticism

NY Times Editorial Board - June 30, 2017

<snip> "Can the etiquette of professional wrestling and reality television truly pass as acceptable for the Oval Office? <snip>

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#1810690 3-Jul-2017 09:11

It's truly remarkable, Trump wouldn't have been able to create the GIF himself - he seems unable to operate the remote control for his TV to change channel.

Anyway, if you forgive what could be possible hysteria - the suggestion that he's trying to incite physical violence against his opponents (behaving like *Hitler), then you're still left with Trump behaving like a child.
Perhaps that's the problem trying to figure out WTF is wrong in his head. Adult psychologists are making stabs and guesses - when a child psychologist is needed.

*Preempting accusation of invoking Godwin's - IMO the comparison if fair, and Godwin's is allowed in this thread.