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# 1928716 3-Jan-2018 22:05

Fred99:

His tweet attack on Pakistan is more concerning (IMO) than his infantile and impotent tweet rant against Kim. Trump can't actually do anything (neither can Kim)

But he can destabilise the situation between Pakistan, China, and India. US "aid" to Pakistan ends up back in US coffers - for weapons purchases. It's actually peanuts compared to the tens of billions that China is already investing in Pakistan.

Diplomacy via twitter is dangerous. His rant against Pakistan is unfortunately popular in the US - the result of that is that he'll probably continue.

Trump hasn't sent these tweets. These are directly from Steve Bannon's game plan.

Sadly it is true...US gives Pakistan billions each year in aid and all for?

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# 1928756 3-Jan-2018 23:14

I finished an excellent book by Sam Bourne last week. It was called 'To Kill the President' and while written as fiction, it is totally about Donald Trump. Basically, he comes within a whisker of destroying the world by launching a nuclear attack on both North Korea _and_ China, and while stopped by the slimmest of margins, members of his administration decide he has to go. It was fast paced, scarily plausible, and I could not put it down from the mid point until it was finished. Goodness knows how folk can get away with going to print with some of the content. I found it as an audiobook.

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# 1928762 3-Jan-2018 23:34

Pumpedd:

Fred99:

His tweet attack on Pakistan is more concerning (IMO) than his infantile and impotent tweet rant against Kim. Trump can't actually do anything (neither can Kim)

But he can destabilise the situation between Pakistan, China, and India. US "aid" to Pakistan ends up back in US coffers - for weapons purchases. It's actually peanuts compared to the tens of billions that China is already investing in Pakistan.

Diplomacy via twitter is dangerous. His rant against Pakistan is unfortunately popular in the US - the result of that is that he'll probably continue.

Trump hasn't sent these tweets. These are directly from Steve Bannon's game plan.

Sadly it is true...US gives Pakistan billions each year in aid and all for?

WoT, land access to Afghanistan - as well as geopolitical influence.

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# 1928763 3-Jan-2018 23:35

gzt:
Pumpedd: Sadly, his rhetoric does seem to be working..or not doing harm. I still despise the creep!!!

Seems to be working? It isnt. Doing nothing harm? It is creating massive problems. Several nuclear tests and several missile tests are a big success for Trump?

Are you saying that the nuclear and missile test regime that NK has been working on for years was actually just started when Trump was elected? KJ* get all that credit.

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# 1928764 3-Jan-2018 23:44

Sideface:

tdgeek:

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I feel everyone over 5yo now knows its all bark and no bite, move along, nothing to see here. The most diluted POTUS ever.

I disagree.

Trump is not a harmless idiot, he is a dangerously aggressive idiot.

I still stand by my opinion, and it grows month by month. So much of his campaign promises are in limbo, and all he does is tweet and rant. Yes, its aggressive, but everyone now knows thats all he does. 1/4 of his term is over. Tweets, rants "we'll see, we'll see" (his favourite comment) That about sums it up

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# 1928772 4-Jan-2018 00:12

Pumpedd:
Fred99:

His tweet attack on Pakistan is more concerning (IMO) than his infantile and impotent tweet rant against Kim. Trump can't actually do anything (neither can Kim)

But he can destabilise the situation between Pakistan, China, and India. US "aid" to Pakistan ends up back in US coffers - for weapons purchases. It's actually peanuts compared to the tens of billions that China is already investing in Pakistan.

Diplomacy via twitter is dangerous. His rant against Pakistan is unfortunately popular in the US - the result of that is that he'll probably continue.

Trump hasn't sent these tweets. These are directly from Steve Bannon's game plan.

Sadly it is true...US gives Pakistan billions each year in aid and all for?

...the use of Pakistan military bases for war material supply to Afghanistan for example.

This particular military aid package had strings attached to it in congress from inception. Probably more Trump grandstanding and $255 million less weapon sales.

Last time there were conditions placed on a purchase Pakistan declined the purchase.

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# 1928840 4-Jan-2018 09:01

Bannon says Trump Jr committed treason. Trump says Bannon lost his mind.

I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney

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# 1928866 4-Jan-2018 09:17

More of the same...

"Trump unloads on former top aide Bannon: 'He lost his mind'"

http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/03/politics/president-donald-trump-steve-bannon/index.html

Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump excoriated his former chief strategist Steve Bannon in a statement Wednesday, claiming that Bannon 'lost his mind' after being pushed out from the White House.

The White House released the strongly worded 266-word statement from the President slamming Bannon after after excerpts from a new book quoted Bannon as calling the meeting between a Russian lawyer and the President's eldest son, son-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort 'treasonous' and 'unpatriotic.'

'Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind. Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating 17 candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party,' Trump said in the statement.

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# 1928868 4-Jan-2018 09:26

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# 1928902 4-Jan-2018 10:37

Trump's new Presidential coin...
and Trump robot not getting along with other robots

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# 1928962 4-Jan-2018 11:45

Rikkitic:

Bannon says Trump Jr committed treason. Trump says Bannon lost his mind.

Coming from someone who it's highly doubtful ever had a mind.

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# 1929030 4-Jan-2018 13:21

Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House

By Michael Wolff

One year ago: the plan to lose, and the administration’s shocked first days.

This BBC article is well worth reading:

10 explosive revelations from the new Trump book

Bannon thought that the Don Jr meeting was 'treasonous'
Trump was 'befuddled' by his victory
Trump was 'angry' at inauguration
Trump found the White House 'scary'
Ivanka hopes to be president
Ivanka mocked dad's 'comb-over'
White House unsure of priorities
Trump's admiration for Rupert Murdoch
Murdoch calls Trump an 'idiot'
Flynn knew Russia ties 'a problem'

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# 1929033 4-Jan-2018 13:24

tdgeek:
gzt:
Pumpedd: Sadly, his rhetoric does seem to be working..or not doing harm. I still despise the creep!!!

Seems to be working? It isnt. Doing nothing harm? It is creating massive problems. Several nuclear tests and several missile tests are a big success for Trump?

Are you saying that the nuclear and missile test regime that NK has been working on for years was actually just started when Trump was elected? KJ* get all that credit.

I'm saying the idiot Trump destabilised the situation and prompted demonstrations of seriousness and capability from NK.

Hopefully Trump's latest round of stupid provocations will be ignored by NK and they will find some other way to embarrass Trump.

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# 1929038 4-Jan-2018 13:36

gzt:
tdgeek:

gzt:
Pumpedd: Sadly, his rhetoric does seem to be working..or not doing harm. I still despise the creep!!!

Seems to be working? It isnt. Doing nothing harm? It is creating massive problems. Several nuclear tests and several missile tests are a big success for Trump?

Are you saying that the nuclear and missile test regime that NK has been working on for years was actually just started when Trump was elected? KJ* get all that credit.

I'm saying the idiot Trump destabilised the situation and prompted demonstrations of seriousness and capability from NK.

Hopefully Trump's latest round of stupid provocations will be ignored by NK and they will find some other way to embarrass Trump.

I think that is about to happen. NK and SK want pre Olympic talks, I gather from SK, for a safe games, for NK to p!ss Trump off. If that happens its a win-win as games ok, some talks happened, US out in the cold. China may thank SK, US further out in the cold

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# 1929415 4-Jan-2018 20:14

Trump and HRC worked very hard in the last days of the campaign both clocking up thousands of miles in their planes going to rallies in the swing states. It is hard to believe that Trump was completely surprised by his win. Would he have worked so hard in the last day or two if he expected to lose? There were things like all the yard signs for Trump and Pence in the swing states and not many for HRC. Truck drivers were reporting on this all the time. Anecdotal evidence of a ground swell for Trump maybe, but the indicators were there unless you kept the TV on CNN!

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