Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 551 | 552 | 553 | 554 | 555 | 556 | 557 | 558 | 559 | 560 | 561 | 562 | 563 | 564 | 565 | 566 | 567 | 568 | 569 | 570 | 571 | ... | 996
8915 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1971738 9-Mar-2018 12:08
Send private message quote this post

Stan:

 

PJW just release a youtube video on the subject:

 

 

In case anybody wonders who could be famous enough to be recognised by his initials, then:

 

Paul Joseph Watson
He's a conspiracy theorist.
He works for Alex Jones / Infowars.

 


Posting links to stuff from him in this forum could be a pretty reasonable indication of where that poster goes to find topics for "informed debate" on political matters.

 

 


Lock him up!
10955 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  # 1971788 9-Mar-2018 12:45
Send private message quote this post

Stan:

 

Fred99:

 

Stan:

 

SaltyNZ:

 

Stan:

 

Would you abandon a family member if they supported trump?

 

 

Define "abandon"?

 

 

Disown I guess would be a better word

 

 

Yes.

 

 

Never thought I would see the day when political points of view where more important than family it's actually fairly disgusting 

 

 

nothing new. america had a civil war over that.

 

 





I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney
 


 
 
 
 


1094 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1971841 9-Mar-2018 13:39
Send private message quote this post

Don't you dare try to preach moral family values at me - by suggesting that it should entail embracing scum. You're trolling - I should ignore you.

 

Relax, Fred, it's OK. Freitasm assured me there are no trolls following this thread.

 

 

 

 





Any fool can make money, but it takes a special person to earn the respect of respectable people.


BDFL - Memuneh
65008 posts

Uber Geek

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1971845 9-Mar-2018 13:41
Send private message quote this post

@geekIT:

 

Don't you dare try to preach moral family values at me - by suggesting that it should entail embracing scum. You're trolling - I should ignore you.

 

Relax, Fred, it's OK. Freitasm assured me there are no trolls following this thread.

 

 

Ah, ah. Seriously though, just because someone has a different opinion it doesn't make a troll.

 

Yes, there are no "trolls" here - those that explicitly join just to post crap. 

 

Your cheap shot didn't work. And I don't like cheap shots.





18496 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1971884 9-Mar-2018 14:09
Send private message quote this post

Just to hand

 

 

 

Trump accepts offer to meet Kim Jong Un

 

President Donald Trump will meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un by May, South Korea's national security adviser announced at the White House.

 

Kim told the South Koreans "he is committed to denuclearization" and pledged North Korea will "refrain from any further nuclear or missile tests," the South Korean official said.


5125 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1971961 9-Mar-2018 15:28
Send private message quote this post

While that sounds good, the problem is that - as other NK watchers have pointed out - the North Korean version of 'denuclearization' means no US troops in South Korea. Clearly, neither South Korea nor the US are going to agree to that. So it is unlikely that these talks will have a more substantial result than any others.





iPad Pro 11" + iPhone XS + 2degrees 4tw!

 

These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.


18496 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1971974 9-Mar-2018 15:44
Send private message quote this post

SaltyNZ:

 

While that sounds good, the problem is that - as other NK watchers have pointed out - the North Korean version of 'denuclearization' means no US troops in South Korea. Clearly, neither South Korea nor the US are going to agree to that. So it is unlikely that these talks will have a more substantial result than any others.

 

 

There are two reasons. One, is that NK are hurting with sanctions, or two, they have completed armament and are confident that with their existing weapons, they can bargain.

 

A fair bargain would be denuclearisation, although NK wont want to be emptied of that, they would want to stand the weapons down and promise not to use them?

 

They would want all sanctions lifted over time, thats fair. That needs to happen when its deemed they are complying, which has always failed in the past. Its not unreasonable to expect US troops to bail out over time. Ask for that to be reviewed in 3 years. They may want oil food and money, thats got to be a no go, SK and China can do that if they wish

 

Historically this has always failed, plus now, NK is armed. I feel that NK wishes to suck up to Trump, make him feel good, and get as much as they can. Playing the psychological game. Trump will lap that up, as he will be a "winner" . Maybe KJU feels that he can control his people by way of prospering them, "we won" and use SK and China to prosper his people. But one day they may want out, that's the issue. If he isnt protecting them from imminent invasion, he will lose some hold over them

 

Interesting times


 
 
 
 


5125 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1971980 9-Mar-2018 15:54
Send private message quote this post

Well, that's right. Kim (rightly) knows that the only reason he will be taken seriously is because now he is confident in his city-killer weapons. He will never give them up. If he does, he's a dead man. His own inner circle would tear him apart if nothing else. So between himself and everyone else, he's painted into a corner. He won't give up the nukes because it's a death sentence, but nobody will relax until he does.

 

I think he's playing to get a temporary benefit. He might agree to take substantial steps towards getting rid of them, and he will appear to be playing along until he's gotten what he wanted, and then he'll renege. They "permanently" disabled their reactors at least once before, got concessions, and then started them up again a few years later. Now he's got even more stuff he can use to put on a show. 

 

Take a missile and chop it up (it was a test item anyway), throw out some machines (they were old ones) or whatever.

 

This is a guy who tracked his brother down and had him killed with VX in public, and executed his uncle by shooting him with an anti-aircraft cannon. He isn't going to just go away if we promise him a pizza.





iPad Pro 11" + iPhone XS + 2degrees 4tw!

 

These comments are my own and do not represent the opinions of 2degrees.


18496 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1971987 9-Mar-2018 16:08
Send private message quote this post

SaltyNZ:

 

Well, that's right. Kim (rightly) knows that the only reason he will be taken seriously is because now he is confident in his city-killer weapons. He will never give them up. If he does, he's a dead man. His own inner circle would tear him apart if nothing else. So between himself and everyone else, he's painted into a corner. He won't give up the nukes because it's a death sentence, but nobody will relax until he does.

 

I think he's playing to get a temporary benefit. He might agree to take substantial steps towards getting rid of them, and he will appear to be playing along until he's gotten what he wanted, and then he'll renege. They "permanently" disabled their reactors at least once before, got concessions, and then started them up again a few years later. Now he's got even more stuff he can use to put on a show. 

 

Take a missile and chop it up (it was a test item anyway), throw out some machines (they were old ones) or whatever.

 

This is a guy who tracked his brother down and had him killed with VX in public, and executed his uncle by shooting him with an anti-aircraft cannon. He isn't going to just go away if we promise him a pizza.

 

 

Yep! he also wants to be recognised as a nuclear nation, so yeah, cant have it both ways, and I agree, he will never give them up. But he can sign a peace treaty, say we are now a peaceful but nuclear armed nation, like you are. 

 

Im also thinking that he may play hardball, in the hope that he causes Trump to play hardball, so the talks fail. Then in steps China, Russia, and South Korea and saves the day. That, in one foul swoop removes the US from being the protector of the world. The US can keep its troops there to polish jeeps. Relations will be strained with SK, but hey, you had your chance with talks and you failed. 


1094 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1972001 9-Mar-2018 16:42
Send private message quote this post

...That, in one foul swoop removes the US from being the protector of the world. The US can keep its troops there to polish jeeps. Relations will be strained with SK, but hey, you had your chance with talks and you failed. 

 

Uh...it's actually a FELL swoop.

 

But I guess it'd also be kinda foul.

 

(Audio of referee blowing whistle. WHEEP!)

 

 





Any fool can make money, but it takes a special person to earn the respect of respectable people.


8915 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1972006 9-Mar-2018 16:56
Send private message quote this post

I was damned sure I'd said that Trump and KJU should meet earlier in this thread - but I can't find my post (wonder why LOL).

 

They have a lot in common, from being two of the most unliked leaders on the planet, their terms of endearment for each other, nepotism, claims to represent "the worker" etc. So much winning to do, surely if they de-nuclearise the Korean Penisinsula, both deserve a shared Nobel Peace Prize - conditional on them both giving it back in the event that after Kim gets sanctions removed and Trump gets to spout off about being the greatest deal maker ever, any agreements they made start to fall apart, and it's back to business as usual.  


5518 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1972008 9-Mar-2018 17:01
Send private message quote this post

President Trump agrees to meet with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un

 

 

"What we're talking about is an invitation by the leader of North Korea to meet face to face with the president of the United States," the official said. "The president has accepted that invitation."

 

 


Wow - "little rocket man" and a "mentally deranged dotard" in the same room:

 





Sideface


929 posts

Ultimate Geek
Inactive user


  # 1972022 9-Mar-2018 17:32
Send private message quote this post

Fred99:

 

No it's not.

 

To "support Trump" is to support *unconditionally* his values.

 

If a family member was known to have been porking a porn star while his third wife was at home looking after his fifth child, if he was on record stating that it's okay to sexually assault women, if they were on record mocking the disabled, inciting political violence, empowering racists etc etc etc...

 

And indicated not even a hint of remorse, then no - if they unconditionally "support" that,  then they won't be stepping foot in our home nor be welcome in our extended family - which includes disabled people, women who have been abused by misogynists, people who have been persecuted because of their race.

 

I don't want people like that around me - or my family - regardless of whether I'm related to them.

 

Because they are disgusting.

 

Don't you dare try to preach moral family values at me - by suggesting that it should entail embracing scum.

 

You're trolling - I should ignore you.

 

 

 

 

I don't think you understand the meaning of supporting a political party technically voting for them is supporting them.

 

So if you live in the United States I would have taken it that you would have voted for Hillary going by your previous posts?

 

 

 

Fred99:

 

In case anybody wonders who could be famous enough to be recognised by his initials, then:

 

 

 

Paul Joseph Watson
He's a conspiracy theorist.
He works for Alex Jones / Infowars.

 

 

 


Posting links to stuff from him in this forum could be a pretty reasonable indication of where that poster goes to find topics for "informed debate" on political matters.

 

 

 

 

You clearly have not watched much in the way of Paul Joseph Watson.

 

While I don't agree with all of his content he is a political commentator rather than a conspiracy theorist on the vast majority of his work.

 

 

 

Edit:spelling


1094 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1972031 9-Mar-2018 17:45
Send private message quote this post

You clearly have not watched much in the way of Paul Joseph Watson. While I don't agree with all of his content he is a political contaminator rather than a conspiracy theorist on the vast majority of his work.

 

This Paul Joseph Watson guy is a political contaminator?

 

Sounds a lot like Trump.





Any fool can make money, but it takes a special person to earn the respect of respectable people.


929 posts

Ultimate Geek
Inactive user


  # 1972032 9-Mar-2018 17:48
Send private message quote this post

geekIT:

 

You clearly have not watched much in the way of Paul Joseph Watson. While I don't agree with all of his content he is a political contaminator rather than a conspiracy theorist on the vast majority of his work.

 

This Paul Joseph Watson guy is a political contaminator?

 

Sounds a lot like Trump.

 

 

 

 

Fixed


1 | ... | 551 | 552 | 553 | 554 | 555 | 556 | 557 | 558 | 559 | 560 | 561 | 562 | 563 | 564 | 565 | 566 | 567 | 568 | 569 | 570 | 571 | ... | 996
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Intel introduces cryogenic control chip to enable quantum computers
Posted 10-Dec-2019 21:32


Vodafone 5G service live in four cities
Posted 10-Dec-2019 08:30


Samsung Galaxy Fold now available in New Zealand
Posted 6-Dec-2019 00:01


NZ company oDocs awarded US$ 100,000 Dubai World Expo grant
Posted 5-Dec-2019 16:00


New Zealand Rugby Selects AWS-Powered Analytics for Deeper Game Insights
Posted 5-Dec-2019 11:33


IMAGR and Farro bring checkout-less supermarket shopping to New Zealand
Posted 5-Dec-2019 09:07


Wellington Airport becomes first 5G connected airport in the country
Posted 3-Dec-2019 08:42


MetService secures Al Jazeera as a new weather client
Posted 28-Nov-2019 09:40


NZ a top 10 connected nation with stage one of ultra-fast broadband roll-out completed
Posted 24-Nov-2019 14:15


Microsoft Translator understands te reo Māori
Posted 22-Nov-2019 08:46


Chorus to launch Hyperfibre service
Posted 18-Nov-2019 15:00


Microsoft launches first Experience Center worldwide for Asia Pacific in Singapore
Posted 13-Nov-2019 13:08


Disney+ comes to LG Smart TVs
Posted 13-Nov-2019 12:55


Spark launches new wireless broadband "Unplan Metro"
Posted 11-Nov-2019 08:19


Malwarebytes overhauls flagship product with new UI, faster engine and lighter footprint
Posted 6-Nov-2019 11:48



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.