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  #2020315 22-May-2018 12:58
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Stan:

 

freitasm:

 

Others are open to justify his actions as not racist, to support their own views.

 

 

 

 

Or just calling it as they see it 

 

I mean his approval rating around 43% right now so either a large amount of americas doesn't mind supporting a "racist" or they don't see him as a racist I think the latter is far more likely. 

 

 

 

 

He is more than a racist, he adds to his list of personality traits, misogyny, lying, xenophobia, homophobia, teratophobia,  to name a few 


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  #2020316 22-May-2018 12:59
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Fred99:

 

freitasm:

 

I THINK Trump is racist.

 

 

Almost 6 in 10 Americans think Trump is a racist.

 

 

Hillary Clinton has a 99% chance of winning the election in 2016


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  #2020317 22-May-2018 12:59
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MikeB4:

 

Stan:

 

freitasm:

 

Others are open to justify his actions as not racist, to support their own views.

 

 

 

 

Or just calling it as they see it 

 

I mean his approval rating around 43% right now so either a large amount of americas doesn't mind supporting a "racist" or they don't see him as a racist I think the latter is far more likely. 

 

 

 

 

He is more than a racist, he adds to his list of personality traits, misogyny, lying, xenophobia, homophobia, teratophobia,  to name a few 

 

 

Is that a statement of fact or your opinion?


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  #2020318 22-May-2018 13:01
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Stan:

 

Fred99:

 

freitasm:

 

I THINK Trump is racist.

 

 

Almost 6 in 10 Americans think Trump is a racist.

 

 

Hillary Clinton has a 99% chance of winning the election in 2016

 

 

Since you don't believe other people's polls then you'd then excuse me if I don't believe your assertion that Trump has 43% support.

 

Polls aren't the end of all. Actions are the end game. And Trump is racist because like the Judge I mentioned before I know it when I see it.





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  #2020319 22-May-2018 13:02
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It is an opinion based on fact and evidence.

 

Edit; "the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life".


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  #2020321 22-May-2018 13:05
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freitasm:

 

Stan:

 

Fred99:

 

freitasm:

 

I THINK Trump is racist.

 

 

Almost 6 in 10 Americans think Trump is a racist.

 

 

Hillary Clinton has a 99% chance of winning the election in 2016

 

 

Since you don't believe other people's polls then you'd then excuse me if I don't believe your assertion that Trump has 43% support.

 

Polls aren't the end of all. Actions are the end game. And Trump is racist because like the Judge I mentioned before I know it when I see it.

 

 

No they are not but im basing it off all polls not from one with a political bias so its statistically it's probably more accurate

 

 


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  #2020322 22-May-2018 13:08
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Stan:

 

freitasm:

 

I THINK Trump is racist.

 

 

Thanks I disagree

 

Fred99\:

 

They probably don't see themselves as racist. 

 

Here's an example of unconscious racism:

 

My son's boss is NZ born Indian.  They work together. People almost always assume that my son is the boss.

 

Not just "sometimes" - it's almost always.

 

 

If everyone has these racist attendances why is it even purport it to a political point of view like Trump supporters

 

 

"tendencies"?

 

Because Trump uses unconscious racism as a wedges to divide (and conquer).

 

The GOP used this with their campaigns on Facebook using Cambridge Analytica, Russian Trolls working (or not) for Putin did the same.

 

That's fact BTW - not "opinion".

 

 


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  #2020323 22-May-2018 13:09
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MikeB4:

 

It is an opinion based on fact and evidence.

 

Edit; "the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life".

 

 

So according to fred99 a large % of people are racist because they assume a white person is boss over an indian if that is the case and most people are racist why even bring it up?

 

 


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  #2020325 22-May-2018 13:12
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Stan:

 

So according to fred99 a large % of people are racist because they assume a white person is boss over an indian if that is the case and most people are racist why even bring it up?

 

 

You don't understand there's a difference between conscious and unconscious racism?

 

Yes - most people are unconsciously racist.  That can be proved with psychological tests.

 

 


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  #2020326 22-May-2018 13:13
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Fred99:

 

Stan:

 

freitasm:

 

I THINK Trump is racist.

 

 

Thanks I disagree

 

Fred99\:

 

They probably don't see themselves as racist. 

 

Here's an example of unconscious racism:

 

My son's boss is NZ born Indian.  They work together. People almost always assume that my son is the boss.

 

Not just "sometimes" - it's almost always.

 

 

If everyone has these racist attendances why is it even purport it to a political point of view like Trump supporters

 

 

"tendencies"?

 

Because Trump uses unconscious racism as a wedges to divide (and conquer).

 

The GOP used this with their campaigns on Facebook using Cambridge Analytica, Russian Trolls working (or not) for Putin did the same.

 

That's fact BTW - not "opinion".

 

 

 

 

Because Trump uses unconscious racism as a wedges to divide (and conquer). Opionion

 

The GOP used this with their campaigns on Facebook using Cambridge Analytica, Russian Trolls working (or not) for Putin did the same. No evidence for Trump's collusion with Russia has been presented thus far so first statement is beside any point. Cambridge Analytica got turned down by trump's campaign because they thought they where full of it. 


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  #2020328 22-May-2018 13:13
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Stan:

 

MikeB4:

 

It is an opinion based on fact and evidence.

 

Edit; "the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life".

 

 

So according to fred99 a large % of people are racist because they assume a white person is boss over an indian if that is the case and most people are racist why even bring it up?

 

 

 

 

Are you saying majority makes it right? 


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  #2020329 22-May-2018 13:14
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Stan:

 

 

 

So according to fred99 a large % of people are racist because they assume a white person is boss over an indian if that is the case and most people are racist why even bring it up?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correct. It's called casual racism, and is very common. That doesn't make it OK, and is something we should all be aware of and look to improve in ourselves.

But Donald Trump's well documented behaviour and comments go way beyond casual racism. 


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  #2020330 22-May-2018 13:14
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Fred99:

 

Stan:

 

So according to fred99 a large % of people are racist because they assume a white person is boss over an indian if that is the case and most people are racist why even bring it up?

 

 

You don't understand there's a difference between conscious and unconscious racism?

 

Yes - most people are unconsciously racist.  That can be proved with psychological tests.

 

 

 

 

So Trump is unconsciously racist or consciously racist in your opinion?


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  #2020331 22-May-2018 13:16
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MikeB4:

 

Stan:

 

MikeB4:

 

It is an opinion based on fact and evidence.

 

Edit; "the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life".

 

 

So according to fred99 a large % of people are racist because they assume a white person is boss over an indian if that is the case and most people are racist why even bring it up?

 

 

 

 

Are you saying majority makes it right? 

 

 

No where did I imply that? All i said was assuming this is true why bother calling trump racist anyway if everyone is?


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  #2020332 22-May-2018 13:16
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Stan:

 

Fred99:

 

Stan:

 

So according to fred99 a large % of people are racist because they assume a white person is boss over an indian if that is the case and most people are racist why even bring it up?

 

 

You don't understand there's a difference between conscious and unconscious racism?

 

Yes - most people are unconsciously racist.  That can be proved with psychological tests.

 

 

So Trump is unconsciously racist or consciously racist in your opinion?

 

 

It doesn't matter. It's racism. One is no better than the other.





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