freitasm: The investigation has not finished and no report is out yet. Anything Trump and Giuliani say is nothing until it closes.
There have already been 5 guilty pleas and 22 indictments - yet from that survey 59% of the US public seem to be unaware that the Mueller enquiry has uncovered anything.
Of course Trump and Giuliani are full of lies, but the fake news media are lapping it up and thereby facilitating the hijacking of democracy. That is what's happening.