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  #2057523 17-Jul-2018 08:29
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Trump's doing his (only?) "post-summit" media one on one with... Hannity.

 

The alt-right / trumpist / fascist coalition is flooding social media with claims that:

 

"Bad" Russians (not the good ones who love Putin) funneled US$400 million to the Hillary campaign, with the assistance of US intelligence agencies.

 

 


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  #2057525 17-Jul-2018 08:33
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MikeB4:
Rikkitic:

 

Under Trump, or inspired by him, there is a steady ongoing process of chipping away at rights and freedoms that have been built up over generations. The Antifa bill is just the latest example of that. I agree that Trump has the cerebral capacity of a Yorkshire pudding but dark creatures are attracted by his lack of restraint and are gathering around him. This is where the danger lies. Democracy is not being overthrown. It is dying from a thousand cuts.

 

 

 

 

 



Democracy through the 20th century and the infancy of the 21st century has been an illusion played with smoke and mirrors. Democracy is not dying by a thousand cuts the smoke and mirrors are merely being stripped away and the reality brought into view.

 

Oh dear.  That sounds like the "but they all do it" whataboutism argument.

 

I think you're dreaming.  There have been bad democratically elected leaders of the US before, but Trump's in a special category using almost any rational measure, as the worst, most dishonest, and most fascist leaning.


 
 
 
 


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  #2057542 17-Jul-2018 08:46
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Fred99:

MikeB4:
Rikkitic:


Under Trump, or inspired by him, there is a steady ongoing process of chipping away at rights and freedoms that have been built up over generations. The Antifa bill is just the latest example of that. I agree that Trump has the cerebral capacity of a Yorkshire pudding but dark creatures are attracted by his lack of restraint and are gathering around him. This is where the danger lies. Democracy is not being overthrown. It is dying from a thousand cuts.


 


 




Democracy through the 20th century and the infancy of the 21st century has been an illusion played with smoke and mirrors. Democracy is not dying by a thousand cuts the smoke and mirrors are merely being stripped away and the reality brought into view.


Oh dear.  That sounds like the "but they all do it" whataboutism argument.


I think you're dreaming.  There have been bad democratically elected leaders of the US before, but Trump's in a special category using almost any rational measure, as the worst, most dishonest, and most fascist leaning.



I think you have misunderstood what I was saying.




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  #2057563 17-Jul-2018 08:59
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Guardian - Trump’s surrender to Putin greeted with outrage by Democrats and Republicans

 

After the president’s joint press conference with Putin, several dissident Republicans echoed Democrats in rebuking Trump

 

 

John Brennan, the CIA director under Barack Obama, said Trump’s conduct was “nothing short of treasonous” and called on Republicans to condemn his behavior.

 

“Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of ‘high crimes & misdemeanors.’ It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???” he tweeted.

 

Arizona senator John McCain angrily denounced Trump and called the press conference a “pathetic rout” and “one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory”

 

In a statement McCain said: “The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate. But it is clear that the summit in Helsinki was a tragic mistake … No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant.”

 

Others joined in. “I never thought I would see the day when our American President would stand on the stage with the Russian President and place blame on the United States for Russian aggression,” wrote Senator Jeff Flake, a Republican of Arizona who is retiring this year after high-profile clashes with Trump. “This is shameful.”

 

 

 

I knew that Trump was a stupid, lying egomaniac - but I didn't think that he was this stupid.





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  #2057566 17-Jul-2018 09:00
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MikeB4:

I think you have misunderstood what I was saying.

 

What were you saying?

 

It's a pretty standard observation the democracy has flaws - but it beats the alternatives - even when there's devil in the detail.


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  #2057591 17-Jul-2018 09:53
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Putin:

 

 

For instance, we can bring up the Mr. Browder in this particular case. Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia. They never paid any taxes, neither in Russia nor in the United States, and yet the money escaped the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent huge amount of money, $400 million as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Well, that's the personal case. It might have been legal, the contribution itself, but the way the money was earned was illegal.

 

So we have a solid reason to believe that some intelligence officers accompanied and guided these transactions. So we have a -- an interest of questioning them. We can all -- that -- that could be a first step, and we can also extend it. Options abound, and they all can be found in an appropriate legal framework.

 

Here's some background to this:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/world/europe/putin-bill-browder-magnitsky-investor.html

 

Browder:

 

 

"It’s a true affirmation of the fact that we’ve found Putin’s Achilles’ heel with the Magnitsky Act,” Mr. Browder said in the interview. “He’s basically lost it, emotionally, because his own money in the West is now being seized under that Magnitsky Act.”

 

 

Magnitsky's death:

 

 

Magnitsky was arrested and imprisoned at the Butyrka prison in Moscow in November 2008 after being accused of colluding with Hermitage. 
On 16 November 2009, eight days before he would have had to have been released if he were not brought to trial, Magnitsky died.
Magnitsky had died from being beaten and tortured by several officers of the Russian Ministry of Interior. The official death certificate stated "closed cerebral cranial injury" as the cause of death (in addition to the other conditions mentioned above), and the post-mortem examination showed numerous bruises and wounds on Magnitsky's legs and hands. Another post-mortem from 2011 summarized the death as being caused by "traumatic application of the blunt hard object (objects)" as confirmed by "abrasions, ecchymomas, blood effusions into the soft tissues".

 

 

Pool lined with gold-plated tiles in one of Putin's holiday homes:

 

 

We have a deal:

 

 

 


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  #2057614 17-Jul-2018 10:30
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Sitting in bed watching the videos on CNN it was not a sign of detente or normalisation I am not sure what the hell it was but capitulation comes to mind.





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  #2057619 17-Jul-2018 10:40
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Trump will continue setting off smoke screens about HRC's emails & the Billy Bobs and Bobby Jo's in the rust belt states will find this easier to understand/can't be bothered to spend the time getting to grips with the real issues.  Remember the post about how many adult Americans could not identify even one country? Many of these people will only remember one thing about NATO. President Trump says the other NATO countries are not paying enough and the USA too much.


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  #2057627 17-Jul-2018 10:53
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MikeB4:

 

Sitting in bed watching the videos on CNN it was not a sign of detente or normalisation I am not sure what the hell it was but capitulation comes to mind.

 

 

 

 

He just a massive nail into his own coffin for sure.

 

Is Trump actually a Russian?


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  #2057631 17-Jul-2018 10:57
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Fred99:

 

Pumpedd:

 

I believe you are giving Trump way too much credit for anything bad or good for that matter. If you were to ask Trump a question on what he has just said, I would doubt he could answer. He literally opens his mouth with something he has seen or heard (probably from Fox and Friends) and doesnt seem to understand what he has just said.

 

I am yet to see him give any kind of analytical answer or statement to anything. His whole dialect is extremely short sentences, which is why Twitter is perfect for him. 

 

Hitler was smart and cunning(not in a good way). Trump is nothing like this, so comparisons shouldn't be made. This guy is so thick even his grey matter between his ears is now orange like the rest of him.

 

He believes in nothing except himself. 

 

 

I don't believe he's a stupid as you think - and in any case his strings are being pulled by an administration and party with some very clear objectives.  Part of his inconsistency is due to being pulled back at times from outright open fascism by more moderate (but still hard right wing) "libertarian" elements in the GOP, but much of his base share Trump's views for creating a patriarchal authoritarian white new world order led by the USA. The moderates are losing.

 

He's on his way to meet with Putin now.  I expect he'll be trading favours, Trump's objective is possibly to get consent to obliterate Iran. 

 

 

 

 

Based on this latest performance I totally concur with my previous comments:P


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  #2057632 17-Jul-2018 11:02
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Good Youtube on Putin's plane: Shows Putin coming aboard the plane, having a meeting on the plane etc. The IL-96 has a slightly slower cruising speed than a Boeing 747 but when you think that most of its trips will be within Europe and ferrying Putin to Crimea for his summer vacations, speed is probably not too important!

 

'Russian IL-96!Flying Fortress!Putin's Plane!'

 

 

 

and The Sun newspaper has done a story about gold fittings on the plane.


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  #2057635 17-Jul-2018 11:14
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linw:

 

And to rubbish his own intelligence service in a public setting just defies belief. What good could possibly come out of that except to Russian and the real "foe".

 

 

How about bipartisan condemnation?

 

"Disgraceful", "Shameful", "It's time to wake up", "The president must appreciate that Russia is not our ally." These are words from Republicans. I jumped onto Fox News US and even they were showing their concerns and disgust.

 

The US population's concern and fear about Russia goes across all political parties. Maybe this is the turning point that people can now build on across the political spectrum?

 

 


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  #2057693 17-Jul-2018 12:54
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Pumpedd:

 

Fred99:

 

Pumpedd:

 

I believe you are giving Trump way too much credit for anything bad or good for that matter. If you were to ask Trump a question on what he has just said, I would doubt he could answer. He literally opens his mouth with something he has seen or heard (probably from Fox and Friends) and doesnt seem to understand what he has just said.

 

I am yet to see him give any kind of analytical answer or statement to anything. His whole dialect is extremely short sentences, which is why Twitter is perfect for him. 

 

Hitler was smart and cunning(not in a good way). Trump is nothing like this, so comparisons shouldn't be made. This guy is so thick even his grey matter between his ears is now orange like the rest of him.

 

He believes in nothing except himself. 

 

 

I don't believe he's a stupid as you think - and in any case his strings are being pulled by an administration and party with some very clear objectives.  Part of his inconsistency is due to being pulled back at times from outright open fascism by more moderate (but still hard right wing) "libertarian" elements in the GOP, but much of his base share Trump's views for creating a patriarchal authoritarian white new world order led by the USA. The moderates are losing.

 

He's on his way to meet with Putin now.  I expect he'll be trading favours, Trump's objective is possibly to get consent to obliterate Iran. 

 

 

 

 

Based on this latest performance I totally concur with my previous comments:P

 

 

The proof will be in the borscht.

 

If he's not POTUS anymore some time soon, then perhaps he's not so clever.

 

But so far he's managed to get away with almost countless scandals that would have sunk any previous president.


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  #2057694 17-Jul-2018 12:57
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DaveB:

 

linw:

 

And to rubbish his own intelligence service in a public setting just defies belief. What good could possibly come out of that except to Russian and the real "foe".

 

 

How about bipartisan condemnation?

 

"Disgraceful", "Shameful", "It's time to wake up", "The president must appreciate that Russia is not our ally." These are words from Republicans. I jumped onto Fox News US and even they were showing their concerns and disgust.

 

The US population's concern and fear about Russia goes across all political parties. Maybe this is the turning point that people can now build on across the political spectrum?

 

 

He's doing an interview on Fox / Hannity, starting in few minutes I think.

 

That will allow him to tell America the Truth.

 

/s


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  #2057695 17-Jul-2018 13:01
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amiga500:

 

Trump will continue setting off smoke screens about HRC's emails & the Billy Bobs and Bobby Jo's in the rust belt states will find this easier to understand/can't be bothered to spend the time getting to grips with the real issues.  Remember the post about how many adult Americans could not identify even one country? Many of these people will only remember one thing about NATO. President Trump says the other NATO countries are not paying enough and the USA too much.

 

 

It's horrible to have to agree with you.

 

I'm also sticking with my guess that he'll be working up to invade Iran soon.  Already there's "news" from Israeli intelligence that they and they alone have discovered that Iran is building up their nuclear capability in secret - IMO they're working on building a case for invasion/destruction.  That will be a great distraction.


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