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  # 2145874 15-Dec-2018 17:27
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There are now six separate investigations going on into activities involving Trump.

 

 





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  # 2145878 15-Dec-2018 17:29
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...I suspect they were only fraudulent if said votes weren't for him.

 

It's quite possible Trump was telling the truth for the first time in his life.

 

Which is, that he was well aware that millions of votes for him were fraudulent. 

 

 

 

 





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  # 2145884 15-Dec-2018 17:58
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kingdragonfly: Trump Denies Telling Michael Cohen to Break the Law - "At this point, I think the only law Donald Trump has broken is gravity."

 

Actually, Kimmel said, "...I think the only law Donald Trump hasn't broken is gravity."





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  # 2145887 15-Dec-2018 18:03
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geekIT:

Actually, Kimmel said, "...I think the only law Donald Trump hasn't broken is gravity."



I'm just presenting alternative facts. :)

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  # 2145889 15-Dec-2018 18:05
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Rikkitic:

 

There are now six separate investigations going on into activities involving Trump.

 

 

NBC News - All the president's investigations

 

 

  • The Mueller probe looking at Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election, and whether there was cooperation / coordination / assistance from the Trump campaign
  • New York prosecutors investigating the payments to women who allegedly had affairs with the president;
  • New York prosecutors looking at the inaugural committee;
  • New York’s attorney general examining the Trump Foundation and Trump’s business dealings;
  • The lawsuits looking at whether Trump is violating the Constitution’s emoluments clause through his business dealings;
  • The defamation lawsuit by Summer Zervos, who alleges that Trump defamed her after she claimed she was sexually assaulted by the president in 2007.

 

... plus all of the probes into cabinet and administration officials.





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  # 2145891 15-Dec-2018 18:23
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kingdragonfly:
geekIT:

 

Actually, Kimmel said, "...I think the only law Donald Trump hasn't broken is gravity."

 

I'm just presenting alternative facts. :)

 

There are enough 'alternative facts' coming from Trump and Friends - we don't need to contribute to the confusion.





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  # 2145893 15-Dec-2018 18:31
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kingdragonfly:

 

geekIT:

 

Actually, Kimmel said, "...I think the only law Donald Trump hasn't broken is gravity."

 



I'm just presenting alternative facts.  smile

 

 

 

 





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  # 2145901 15-Dec-2018 18:56
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Trump is trying to play poker... Saying on Twitter he authorised payments to two women under advice of counsel defense is risky:

 

 

 

 

Courts have held that the defense applies when a person has gone to a lawyer to ask about whether something is legal, disclosed all material facts, and then relied in good faith on the professional's advice that no laws were being broken.

 

The illegal act in this case involves payments made to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy centerfold Karen McDougal to keep them from talking about sexual encounters they say they had with Trump while he was married.

 

Federal prosecutors in New York say the payments amounted to illegal campaign contributions because they were made at the height of the 2016 election season to keep voters from learning of Trump's alleged infidelities. Cohen was sentenced Wednesday to three years in prison for the violations and other crimes, including bank fraud and tax evasion.

 

Cohen has said that Trump was aware of the payments. In one instance, he recorded Trump giving him advice about how to buy McDougal's story from the parent company of the National Enquirer. It isn't clear from that recording, or other evidence made public, whether Trump and Cohen ever specifically discussed whether the payments were legal. Cohen and prosecutors say the Trump Organization reimbursed Cohen for a $130,000 payment to Daniels.

 

Cohen, Trump and David Pecker, the chairman of the company that owns the National Enquirer, had a meeting at Trump Tower in August of 2015 to discuss ways the media company could help the campaign, including buying the silence of women who might talk publicly about affairs with Trump, according to documents made public by federal prosecutors.

 

Trump has not specified what advice, if any, he received from Cohen. In an interview Thursday with Fox News, he said: "I never directed him to do anything wrong. Whatever he did he did on his own. A lawyer who represents a client is supposed to do the right thing."

 

An advice-of-counsel defense is "not easily invoked and has far-ranging consequences and risks," said Tony Alexis, a former federal prosecutor who worked in the Justice Department's fraud and public corruption section.

 

For one thing, a person who invokes the advice-of-counsel defense can no longer claim attorney-client privilege, meaning his or her conversations with the attorney are no longer private and can be freely explored by prosecutors.

 

"It's a very risky strategy," said Jennifer Rodgers, a former federal prosecutor in Manhattan.

 

In this case, it could give investigators access to records and communications between Trump and Cohen that were deemed confidential after the FBI raided Cohen's office earlier this year, Rodgers said.

 

"He'd be waiving privilege with respect to everything," she added.

 

While uncommon, the defense has had high-profile successes.

 

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance said last year he would not pursue state election law charges against New York Mayor Bill de Blasio in part because the parties involved in making legally questionable transfers of campaign funds relied on the advice of their attorneys.

 

In the president's case, Rodgers said, Trump would have to establish that he was actually seeking Cohen's legal advice in connection with the hush-money payments and not relying on him to handle the matter as his long-time fixer.

 

The advice-of-counsel defense is "for a client who says, 'I want to make sure I'm in compliance with the law here,'" Rodgers said.

 

 

 





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  # 2145949 16-Dec-2018 08:22
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The Washington Post - Interior Secretary Zinke resigns amid investigations

 

 

Interior Department Secretary Ryan Zinke submitted his resignation to the White House Saturday, facing intense pressure to step down because of multiple probes tied to his real estate dealings in his home state of Montana and his conduct while in office.

 

Zinke ... is the fourth Trump Cabinet member to resign under an ethics cloud in less than two years.

 

Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price, Veterans Affairs Secretary David Shulkin and Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt also relinquished their posts after coming under scrutiny for how they spent taxpayer dollars on their travel, among other allegations.

 





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  # 2146014 16-Dec-2018 10:17
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These lines from this article are particularly interesting:

 

"In New York, where Trump’s business is based, incoming Attorney General Letitia James (D) is preparing to launch several investigations into aspects of his company.

 

“We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well,” James told NBC News.

 

She said she wanted to look into whether Trump had violated the emoluments clause by doing business with foreign governments in New York and examine allegations detailed by the New York Times that Trump’s company engaged in questionable tax practices for decades.

 

New York state’s tax agency has also said it is considering an investigation into the company’s tax practices.

 

Earlier this year, New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood filed suit against Trump and his three eldest children, alleging “persistently illegal conduct” at the Donald J. Trump Foundation, a case spurred by reporting by The Post in 2016.

 

Trump is accused of violating several state charity laws, including using his charity’s money to pay off legal settlements for his for-profit businesses. He used the foundation to buy a portrait of himself that was hung up at one of his resorts. Trump also allegedly allowed his presidential campaign to dictate the charity’s giving in 2016 — despite laws that bar charities from participating in campaigns."

 

- emphasis added by me

 

 





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  # 2146015 16-Dec-2018 10:17
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The Washington Post - The GOP majority’s last words: But her emails!

 


Republicans, in the waning hours of their eight-year reign in the House, are using this precious time to do what they love best: investigating Hillary Clinton’s emails.

 

The House Oversight Committee had one last item on this year’s calendar - a hearing Thursday on the Clinton Foundation. But it didn’t stop there!

 

Republicans and their witnesses used the hearing to reprise their greatest hits: her email server, Benghazi, George Soros, Sidney Blumenthal, Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, James B. Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, IRS targeting the tea party, Uranium One and a QAnon conspiracy about the Justice Department swooping into Little Rock to seize Clinton documents.

 

Even the lock-her-up Trump administration had tired of these proceedings.

 

The Justice Department - under the command of Trump loyalist Matthew G. Whitaker - refused to testify ... and the IRS also sent regrets.

 

 

 

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and, in conclusion ...

 

 

... Without new evidence or allegations, Republicans encouraged Fitton to speculate about the Clintons’ guilt. (Q: “Mr. Fitton, would you say that’s a quid pro quo?” A: “It certainly seems that way.”)

 

“Quid pro quo: Had to look it up,” announced Rep. Rod Blum (R-Iowa). “It’s Latin for ‘something for something.’ ”

 

There was laughter in the gallery at the 63-year-old legislator’s new discovery.

 

But Blum did know this: “If it looks like a pig, if it sounds like a pig, and if it smells like a pig, it’s probably a pig.

 

And I think based on what I read today, something smells here.”

 

Yes, it does. But a House cleaning is coming.

 





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  # 2146019 16-Dec-2018 10:30
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freitasm: Trump saying on Twitter he authorised payments to two women under advice of counsel defense is risky




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  # 2146503 17-Dec-2018 11:53
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BREAKING NEWS

 

The Washington Post - New report on Russian disinformation, prepared for the Senate, shows the operation’s scale and sweep

 

December 16 2018

 

The report, a draft of which was obtained by The Washington Post, is the first to study the millions of posts provided by major technology firms to the Senate Intelligence Committee

 


A report prepared for the Senate that provides the most sweeping analysis yet of Russia’s disinformation campaign around the 2016 election found the operation used every major social media platform to deliver words, images and videos tailored to voters’ interests to help elect President Trump - and worked even harder to support him while in office.

 

The report, a draft of which was obtained by The Washington Post, is the first to study the millions of posts provided by major technology firms to the Senate Intelligence Committee, led by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), its chairman, and Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), its ranking Democrat.

 

The bipartisan panel hasn’t said if it endorses the findings. It plans to release it publicly along with another study later this week.

 

The research - by Oxford University’s Computational Propaganda Project and Graphika, a network analysis firm - offers new details on how Russians working at the Internet Research Agency, which U.S. officials have charged with criminal offenses for meddling in the 2016 campaign, sliced Americans into key interest groups for targeted messaging.

 

These efforts shifted over time, peaking at key political moments, such as presidential debates or party conventions, the report found.

 

“What is clear is that all of the messaging clearly sought to benefit the Republican Party - and specifically Donald Trump,” the report says.

“Trump is mentioned most in campaigns targeting conservatives and right-wing voters, where the messaging encouraged these groups to support his campaign."

 

"The main groups that could challenge Trump were then provided messaging that sought to confuse, distract and ultimately discourage members from voting.”  ...

 

 

[emphasis by me]

 

This is a long and detailed report - read it if you can.

 

 

 





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  # 2146646 17-Dec-2018 18:56
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Whatever your politics, we are pretty damned lucky. Have a wonderful holiday season everyone!





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  # 2146896 18-Dec-2018 09:20
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Rikkitic:

 

Whatever your politics, we are pretty damned lucky. Have a wonderful holiday season everyone!

 

 

Why are we lucky, and what has it got to do with OUR politics?

 

The world is a small place and whatever happens in America will affect us all. We shouldnt be allowing Americans to come here just because they hate Trump. 

 

With more horrid and ghastly headlines today about Trump I am hoping that the world leaders are planning contingencies.


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