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  #2148883 21-Dec-2018 14:59
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freitasm:

 

Spineless congresspeople approved US$ 5.7 billion for a wall. 

 

Good $deity, people are idiots.

 

 

It needs Senate's approval after this step.

 

But to be honest, the US can spend whatever money on whatever their government approves to spend, and it's up to their people to agree or not. Our government spends a lot of money on things they see important that the general public don't necessarily agree is important. The thing was that USA was trying to make Mexico pay which was a bit iffy.


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  #2148884 21-Dec-2018 15:06
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freitasm:

 

Spineless congresspeople approved US$ 5.7 billion for a wall. 

 

Good $deity, people are idiots.

 

 

Just because republican simians voted this through doesn't mean it will happen. It seems more like a symbolic fingers gesture by bad sport losers. It can't pass the senate and the new House will give it the burial it so richly deserves. I don't pretend to actually understand anything about this anymore but I don't think this vote makes a real difference. It is just more mean-spirited sputtering.

 

 

 

 





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  #2148975 21-Dec-2018 16:44
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I know it needs approval to pass. But knowing that some people voted for it...





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  #2148978 21-Dec-2018 17:02
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Batman:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Mattis has resigned.

 

 

Pretty sure he hasn't resigned but is going to retire.

 

 

Hmm but there is a link to his resignation letter!

 

So he resigned into retirement?


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  #2148981 21-Dec-2018 17:09
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Assuming the wall funding actually comes through, some cronies of Trump will make a serious amount of cash building it. Just look at how much they continually waste on the rest of their defence budget!


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  #2149045 21-Dec-2018 19:46
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The Washington Post - This shutdown might be different

 

December 20

 

 

For most of the week, it appeared Washington would avoid a government shutdown.

 

The Senate passed a stopgap bill on Wednesday, paving the way for House approval. But President Trump blindsided his own allies and chose to pick a fight he cannot win. ...

 

In life, pain can be a helpful mechanism in that it lets you know you are engaged in behavior that is bad for you.

If you put your hand on a hot stove, it is the resulting pain that makes you pull your hand away lest you are seriously harmed or even killed.

 

The problem is, in a political context, Trump does not feel any pain. He does not know he is engaged in behavior that is bad for him and those around him.

 

He thinks he is right, that he won with a great landslide and that he is invincible. And now he thinks his position of “border security” vs. a government shutdown will serve him well.

 

But in reality, the president and his Republican allies will be the only ones who will suffer.

 

For the Democrats, the present-day budget fight is a pain-free exercise. ...

 

 





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  #2149064 21-Dec-2018 20:51
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White House Christmas Message Featuring Melania Trump

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First Lady Melania Trump (Laura Benanti) turns the White House's routine annual holiday message into a full-fledged Christmas Special.


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The Washington Post - Trump warns of a ‘very long’ government shutdown if Democrats oppose bill that includes border wall money

 

 

President Trump warned Friday that a partial government shutdown would last “for a very long time” if Congress does not meet his demand Friday for billions in funding for his long-promised border wall in a stopgap spending measure.

 

In a spate of morning tweets, Trump sought to pin blame on Democrats for a potential shutdown even though he said last week that he would proudly own one if lawmakers did not provide at least $5 billion toward his marquee campaign promise.

 

And he suggested that Senate rules should be changed so that Republicans could pass the bill without any Democratic support - a move that a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky) promptly dismissed.

 

 

Overnight tweet storm ...

 

 

 

Executive Summary:

 

It's all the Democrats' fault, and Trump knows technology better than anyone.  undecided





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  #2149199 22-Dec-2018 09:37
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I know its been said before, but the end does now appear nigh. He lost Mattis, Fox is batting against him now. he is exiting Syria and Afghanistan, as presumably he has won those wars. Being a narcissist is tough, he is now creating good news (won these wars and now moving out) to counter the anti Trump fervour that is growing everywhere, but these moves will further isolate him. It seems to be accelerating as he begins to implode. I suspect he will have an angry public outburst before long , he will lose his temper. 


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The Washington Post - ‘He just re-founded ISIS’: Fox News bucks Trump - again - and Trump is listening, again

 


“Fox and Friends” host Brian Kilmeade on Friday morning tore into Trump’s other controversial decision this week - to pull U.S. troops out of Syria - and he did it right to the face of Trump’s own press secretary, Sarah Sanders.

 

Kilmeade even went so far as to say that the president was paving the way for a revitalized Islamic State, also known as ISIS.

 

“He also is doing exactly what he criticized President Obama for doing,” Kilmeade told Sanders.

 

“He said President Obama is the founder of ISIS; he just re-founded ISIS, because they have 30,000 men there and they are already striking back with our would-be evacuation. The president is really on the griddle with this.”

 

“Leaving is helping,” Kilmeade added, repeating: “Leaving is helping.”

 

 





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  #2149281 22-Dec-2018 13:04
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In the spirit of Christmas, I think this initiative deserves a prominent mention.  

 

A redneck annoyed at the democratic process in the USA which is blocking Trump's wall funding, has started a GoFundMe campaign to try to raise the wall money privately. So someone else has responded with an opposing campaign to raise money for ladders to go over the wall. It will be interesting to see which does best.

 

 





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  #2149282 22-Dec-2018 13:08
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Rikkitic:

 

In the spirit of Christmas, I think this initiative deserves a prominent mention.  

 

A redneck annoyed at the democratic process in the USA which is blocking Trump's wall funding, has started a GoFundMe campaign to try to raise the wall money privately.
So someone else has responded with an opposing campaign to raise money for ladders to go over the wall. It will be interesting to see which does best.

 

 





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"A redneck annoyed at the democratic process in the USA which is blocking Trump's wall funding, has started a GoFundMe campaign to try to raise the wall money privately."

 

Which got me thinking: How does a private citizen (or citizens) actually go about giving money to the government? Other than a taxes, of course.

 

And how does a government go about accepting money from said citizen\s?

 

There's gotta be a lot of red (no pun intended) tape attached to such an operation, surely?





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  #2149308 22-Dec-2018 14:40
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Let's just say an individual making a donation to the US government project, perhaps Phillip Fry has the best answer


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  #2149312 22-Dec-2018 15:02
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geekIT:

 

"A redneck annoyed at the democratic process in the USA which is blocking Trump's wall funding, has started a GoFundMe campaign to try to raise the wall money privately."

 

Which got me thinking: How does a private citizen (or citizens) actually go about giving money to the government? Other than a taxes, of course.

 

And how does a government go about accepting money from said citizen\s?

 

There's gotta be a lot of red (no pun intended) tape attached to such an operation, surely?

 

 

The difference is that the "ladder fundraising" is actually clearly spelt out as a charity fundraising - they aren't going to buy ladders. 

 

The one supporting the wall on the other hand shows just how dumb people are - they can't "give money" to the government. They Dear Leader promised Mexico would pay for the wall and these people still give their money away. In my opinion, at the end the guy is probably going to say "We can't give this money to the government" and then setup a "think tank that will drive the message home" - while paying a nice salary to him and his family...





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