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  # 2168242 27-Jan-2019 08:56
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The Guardian - Trump raises white flag as shutdown gambit fails gradually then suddenly

 

Caught between the political savvy of Nancy Pelosi and the wrath of Ann Coulter the president secured not a penny for his wall.

 

 

 

 

 

 

What winds me up is that the GOP senators say the Democrats backed down. Trump says Democrats now realise the wall is needed. 

 

Absolutely crazy. The deal is what Pelosi has been offering from day one. No wall money, open Govt, negotiate wall later.

 

I assume when by Feb 15 he has only got 12 bucks to fund his wall, he will say the Democrats lied. 

 

 


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  # 2168254 27-Jan-2019 09:26
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... What winds me up is that the GOP senators say the Democrats backed down. Trump says Democrats now realise the wall is needed. 

 

Absolutely crazy. The deal is what Pelosi has been offering from day one. No wall money, open Govt, negotiate wall later. ...

 

 

 

 

The Washington Post - After surrendering in shutdown standoff, Trump again vows to build wall

 

January 26 at 12:26 PM

 


A day after President Trump surrendered in his standoff with congressional Democrats and agreed to reopen the federal government, he continued to push back against the notion - including criticism from political allies - that the episode represented a major defeat. ...

 

The deal struck with congressional leaders reopens the government through Feb. 15, while creating a committee meant to negotiate a border-security agreement.

 

On Saturday morning, the president took to Twitter, saying that “21 days goes very quickly” and once again vowing that the promised wall would be constructed. ...

 

 

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  # 2168271 27-Jan-2019 10:25
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Now that Spanky has been spanked by Nancy, it is the turn of Kim and the Taliban to run circles around him. The great deal-maker couldn't deal his way out of a card game.

 

 





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  # 2168339 27-Jan-2019 12:48
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Maybe they just turn up.

 

 





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  # 2168358 27-Jan-2019 13:35
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May I suggest a libation for Trump's first loss against Nancy Pelosi? It's called "Blood in the water shark drink". Here's to many more :)


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  # 2168365 27-Jan-2019 13:43
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freitasm:

Wait, is it left or right?




Should I worry that he's seem to put a lot of thought into human trafficking, almost as much as priest on altar boys?

 
 
 
 


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  # 2168368 27-Jan-2019 13:47
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Mate, you  need to go easy on the meths.





TREXIT - Vote him out. Drag him out. Take him out. Either way, Trump's gotta go.


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  # 2168440 27-Jan-2019 15:00
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I'm just saying it's not unheard of for Republicans who are opposed to something being that something.

Republicans Ohio State Representative Wesley Goodman and Oklahoma state Senator Ralph Shortey were clear political opponents of the gay community while in office. Both were married.

Goodman, resigned after it came out that he had had sex with a man in his office.

Shortey resigned after being hit with child prostitution charges for allegedly soliciting sex from a 17-year-old boy and plead guilty to a child sex trafficking charge.

Here's an article, from 3 years ago, called "20 Republican Politicians Brought Down By Big Gay Sex Scandals"

I don't think anyone could put Trump on a pedestal for morality. He seems to be an expert in human trafficking, by his own admission. :)




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  # 2168446 27-Jan-2019 15:15
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The Washington Post - Trump’s golf course employed undocumented workers - and then fired them amid showdown over border wall

 

January 26 at 3:17 PM

 


OSSINING, N.Y — They had spent years on the staff of Donald Trump’s golf club, winning employee-of-the-month awards and receiving glowing letters of recommendation.

 

Some were trusted enough to hold the keys to Eric Trump’s weekend home.

 

But on Jan. 18, about a dozen employees at Trump National Golf Club in Westchester County, N.Y., were summoned, one by one, to talk with a human resources executive from Trump headquarters.

 

During the meetings, they were fired because they are undocumented immigrants, according to interviews with the workers and their attorney.

 

The fired workers are from Latin America.

 

The sudden firings follow last year’s revelations of undocumented labor at a Trump club in New Jersey, where employees were subsequently dismissed.

 

The firings show Trump’s business was relying on undocumented workers even as the president demanded a border wall to keep out such immigrants. ...

 

 

 





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  # 2168496 27-Jan-2019 16:33
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kingdragonfly: I'm just saying it's not unheard of for Republicans who are opposed to something being that something.

Republicans Ohio State Representative Wesley Goodman and Oklahoma state Senator Ralph Shortey were clear political opponents of the gay community while in office. Both were married.

Goodman, resigned after it came out that he had had sex with a man in his office.

Shortey resigned after being hit with child prostitution charges for allegedly soliciting sex from a 17-year-old boy and plead guilty to a child sex trafficking charge.

Here's an article, from 3 years ago, called "20 Republican Politicians Brought Down By Big Gay Sex Scandals"

I don't think anyone could put Trump on a pedestal for morality. He seems to be an expert in human trafficking, by his own admission. :) 

 

 

 

LOL. I was referring to your 'Blood in the water shark drink'.





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  # 2168550 27-Jan-2019 18:11
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Adam Ruins Everything
Why a Wall Won't Stop Immigration


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  # 2168748 28-Jan-2019 10:08
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The Washington Post - Trump advisers lied over and over again, Mueller says. The question is, why?

 

January 27 at 8:00 AM

 

extracts from a long article:

 


INTRO

 

They lied to the public for months before Donald Trump was elected - and then repeatedly after he took office.

 

They lied to Congress as lawmakers sought to investigate Russia’s attack on American democracy in 2016.

 

And they lied to the FBI, even when they knew lying was a crime.

 

In indictments and plea agreements unveiled over the last 20 months, special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has shown over and over again that some of President Trump’s closest friends and advisers have lied about Russia and related issues.

 

On Friday, Mueller laid out a new allegation: that longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone lied to Congress and obstructed its probe of Russia’s interference in the 2016 campaign. ...

 

CONCLUSION

 

“In Trump world, everybody lies. Everybody doesn’t tell the truth. At the end of the day, they are all lying. I don’t know how Mueller can believe anybody,” said Louise Sunshine, a longtime executive with the Trump Organization.

 

Trump allies say the president knows that many of the people around him are not trustworthy - and believes he can use that to his advantage if any of his onetime aides attempt to pin their wrongdoing on him.

 

He has instructed Giuliani and his other lawyers to question the credibility of anyone who attacks him, according to White House aides ...

 

Sam Nunberg, a former Trump aide, said he believed that people around Trump lied to investigators because they were trying to make sure their version of events lined up with lies the president was telling to the American people.

 

“They all conspired,” he said, “against themselves.”

 

 

 





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  # 2168847 28-Jan-2019 12:06
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kingdragonfly:

 

Should I worry that he's seem to put a lot of thought into human trafficking, almost as much as priest on altar boys?



File, for now, in the "unconfirmed conspiracy theory" bucket. But with Trump having a long track record of obsessing over and calling out behaviours he often displays himself, it may be a rabbit hole worth going down.

 


 


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The New York Times - Saving NATO

 

By The Editorial Board

 

The House voted overwhelmingly to block President Trump’s threat to quit the Atlantic alliance. The Senate should promptly follow suit.

 


The idea that the United States could withdraw from NATO is surreal.

 

The alliance, now numbering 29 countries, has been the foundation of trans-Atlantic stability and prosperity for seven decades.

 

It continues to keep a predatory Russia at bay and diminish the danger that American soldiers might once again have to fight on European soil.

 

Yet in Donald Trump’s go-it-alone presidency, the possibility of America’s withdrawal has become such a concern that Congress is taking steps to prevent it.

 

The Democratic-led House on Jan. 22 voted 357-22 for a bipartisan bill that would tie Mr. Trump’s hands by refusing him any federal money to pay the costs of leaving the alliance.

 

The Republican-led Senate should quickly follow, either approving the House measure or a separate bill proposed by a bipartisan group of senators that requires Mr. Trump to obtain approval from two-thirds of the Senate to “suspend, terminate or withdraw U.S. membership in NATO.”

 

If the president refused to abide by a Senate vote preserving NATO membership, the bill would then prohibit the use of federal funds for withdrawal.

 

It seems obvious that leaving NATO would be a foreign policy debacle, eroding American influence in Europe and emboldening Vladimir Putin, the Russian leader, who wants to weaken NATO so he can expand his political and military sway. ...

 

Mr. Trump’s own skepticism has long been apparent. He has questioned the alliance’s purpose and hectored the allies to pay more for defense.

 

Spending has risen, but it also rose under Mr. Trump’s predecessors, who urged greater military spending but never wavered in their commitment to NATO.

 

Now the threat is growing: Several times last year, the president privately told senior administration officials that he wanted to withdraw from NATO, viewing it as a drain on the United States. ...

 



 





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