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  # 2247828 29-May-2019 16:17
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It's hard to answer your rhetorical question without obvious virtue signaling.

Trump can bring about vast death tolls by just being impetuous, ill prepared, goaded or even bought off.

He encourages more strong arm politics and dictatorships worldwide.

It goes way beyond being able to buy something.

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  # 2247834 29-May-2019 16:24
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The New York Times - The Insults Trump Has Hurled at 2020 Democrats

 

May 26, 2019

 

Mr. Trump’s habit of hurling insults and childish taunts at rivals is extraordinary for a sitting president ...

 

As Mr. Trump seeks to tear down his rivals in the 2020 race, here are the candidates Mr. Trump has insulted so far. ...

 





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  # 2247934 29-May-2019 19:03
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  # 2248002 29-May-2019 19:56
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kingdragonfly: It's hard to answer your rhetorical question without obvious virtue signaling.

Trump can bring about vast death tolls by just being impetuous, ill prepared, goaded or even bought off.

He encourages more strong arm politics and dictatorships worldwide.

It goes way beyond being able to buy something.

 

It wasn't a rhetorical question.

 

True, Trump could bring about vast death tolls.

 

Putin and Kim Il Jong are probably just as capable/likely of bringing about vast death tolls. Both of whom have been responsible for carrying out assassinations on foreign soil of people who oppose them. Trump hasn't done that, at least yet.

 

For some reason there's a fascination in this country with Trump. Perhaps that's because we get a lot of our news feeds from the US. I think Trump gets far more airplay in our media than he deserves. I think he's an idiot with most of what he does though I think he does get some things right, whether that's by design or by accident is another story.

 

One of Trumps few attributes is he says what he thinks. Whether or not we like what he says, at least we know where he stands. You cannot say that for the likes of Hillary Clinton who will tell you what she thinks you want to hear. It's a sad commentary that these were the two choices for the President of the USA.

 

There's other world leaders whom I think deserve more attention for what they do and how they might affect us. I've mention two above and there's a third and that is Xi Jinping. They are effectively dictators who can do what they please, unlike Trump who is bound by some checks and balances.

 

Trump was elected through an open fair democratic process. I'm not sure the same can be said for Putin, Kin Il Jong or Xi Jinping. With the possible exception of Putin it's very unlikely the citizens of these countries will ever get the chance to have a say in who leads them.

 

 

 

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To further illustrate my point, can you imagine a parody about Putin, Kim Il Jong or Xi Jinping similar to the one linked in the post above being allowed to play in their respective countries. Just imagine what would happen to anyone who produced anything like this.





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  # 2248019 29-May-2019 20:31
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One of Trumps few attributes is he says what he thinks.


Speaking whatever you think is not an admirable attribute. It's what children and idiots do.

As Mark Twain said "It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt."

To further illustrate my point, can you imagine a parody about Putin, Kim Il Jong or Xi Jinping similar to the one linked in the post above being allowed to play in their respective countries. Just imagine what would happen to anyone who produced anything like this.


I guess you're unaware that Trump has called opponents traitors, chanted "lock her up" for opponents, though his own child committed the same crime, and said various FBI official should be convicted of treason.

Treason is still punishable by the death-penalty. But of course, Trump is too stupid to realize he's stupid, and ask experts such questions like "what is treason?" and "what is needed to accuse people of treason?"

But you're right to think of dictators when you think of Trump

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  # 2248031 29-May-2019 20:42
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Here is the full version of an important opinion piece, which is behind a paywall ...

 

 

 

The Washington Post -  No ‘treason.’ No coup. Just lies - and dumb lies at that.

 

By James Comey

 

May 28, 2019

 

James Comey is a former director of the FBI and a former deputy attorney general.

 


It is tempting for normal people to ignore our president when he starts ranting about treason and corruption at the FBI.

 

I understand the temptation. I’m the object of many of his rants, and even I try to ignore him.

 

But we shouldn’t, because millions of good people believe what a president of the United States says.

 

In normal times, that’s healthy. But not now, when the president is a liar who doesn’t care what damage he does to vital institutions.

 

We must call out his lies that the FBI was corrupt and committed treason, that we spied on the Trump campaign and tried to defeat Donald Trump.

 

We must constantly return to the stubborn facts.

 

Russia engaged in a massive effort to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. Near as I can tell, there is only one U.S. leader who still denies that fact.

 

The FBI saw the attack starting in mid-June 2016, with the first dumping of stolen emails.

 

In late July, when we were hard at work trying to understand the scope of the effort, we learned that one of Trump’s foreign policy advisers knew about the Russian effort seven weeks before we did.

 

In April 2016, that adviser talked to a Russian agent in London, learned that the Russians had obtained “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of emails and that the Russians could assist the Trump campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to Clinton.

 

Of course, nobody from the Trump campaign told us this (or about later Russian approaches); we had to learn it, months after the fact, from an allied ambassador.

 

But when we finally learned of it in late July, what should the FBI have done? Let it go? Go tell the Trump campaign? Tell the press?

 

No. Investigate, to see what the facts were. We didn’t know what was true. Maybe there was nothing to it, or maybe Americans were actively conspiring with the Russians.

 

To find out, the FBI would live up to its name and investigate.

 

As director, I was determined that the work would be done carefully, professionally and discreetly. We were just starting. If there was nothing to it, we didn’t want to smear Americans.

 

If there was something to it, we didn’t want to let corrupt Americans know we were onto them. So, we kept it secret. That’s how the FBI approaches all counterintelligence cases.

 

And there’s the first problem with Trump’s whole “treason” narrative.

 

If we were “deep state” Clinton loyalists bent on stopping him, why would we keep it secret?

 

Why wouldn’t the much-maligned FBI supervisor Peter Strzok - the alleged kingpin of the “treasonous” plot to stop Trump - tell anyone?

 

He was one of the very few people who knew what we were investigating.

 

We investigated. We didn’t gather information about the campaign’s strategy. We didn’t “spy” on anyone’s campaign.

 

We investigated to see whether it was true that Americans associated with the campaign had taken the Russians up on any offer of help.

 

By late October, the investigators thought they had probable cause to get a federal court order to conduct electronic surveillance of a former Trump campaign adviser named Carter Page.

 

Page was no longer with the campaign, but there was reason to believe he was acting as an agent of the Russian government.

 

We asked a federal judge for permission to surveil him and then we did it, all without revealing our work, despite the fact that it was late October and a leak would have been very harmful to candidate Trump.

 

Worst deep-state conspiracy ever.

 

But wait, the conspiracy idea gets dumber.

 

On Oct. 28, after agonizing deliberation over two terrible options, I concluded I had no choice but to inform Congress that we had reopened the Clinton email investigation.

 

I judged that hiding that fact - after having told Congress repeatedly and under oath that the case was finished - would be worse than telling Congress the truth.

 

It was a decision William Barr praised and Hillary Clinton blamed for her loss 11 days later. Strzok, alleged architect of the treasonous plot to stop Trump, drafted the letter I sent Congress.

 

And there’s still more to the dumbness of the conspiracy allegation.

 

At the center of the alleged FBI “corruption” we hear so much about was the conclusion that Deputy Director Andrew McCabe lied to internal investigators about a disclosure to the press in late October 2016.

 

McCabe was fired over it.

 

And what was that disclosure? Some stop-Trump election-eve screed? No.

 

McCabe authorized a disclosure that revealed the FBI was actively investigating the Clinton Foundation, a disclosure that was harmful to Clinton.

 

There is a reason the non-fringe media doesn’t spend much time on this “treason” and “corruption” business. The conspiracy theory makes no sense.

 

The FBI wasn’t out to get Donald Trump. It also wasn’t out to get Hillary Clinton. It was out to do its best to investigate serious matters while walking through a vicious political minefield.

 

But go ahead, investigate the investigators, if you must. When those investigations are over, you will find the work was done appropriately and focused only on discerning the truth of very serious allegations.

 

There was no corruption. There was no treason. There was no attempted coup. Those are lies, and dumb lies at that.

 

There were just good people trying to figure out what was true, under unprecedented circumstances.

 





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  # 2248032 29-May-2019 20:42
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Technofreak:


We could choose different trading partners and not bother with the US, that way what happens there would would have none or very little impact on us. In reality what effect has Donald Trump had the average New Zealander or you personally. Has his presidency stopped you doing anything or buying anything or cost you in any way?



Take Trump's hostility towards any kind of policy towards reversing America's contribution towards man-made climate change. Are you truly not aware of the impact of such inaction upon his fellow human beings or future generations? 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2248051 29-May-2019 21:40
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Technofreak:

 

 

 

One of Trumps few attributes is he says what he thinks. Whether or not we like what he says, at least we know where he stands.

 

 

You truly have to be freaking well kidding.

 

There are entire subcultures / forums devoted to exposing what Trump said directly opposing what Trump said, such as Reddit's r/TrumpCriticizesTrump

 

Much of the rest of his verbal diarrhea is word salad - consistent with audio penetrating the walls of a padded cell during an anti-psychotic famine.


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  # 2248058 29-May-2019 21:52
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Technofreak:

 

To further illustrate my point, can you imagine a parody about Putin, Kim Il Jong or Xi Jinping similar to the one linked in the post above being allowed to play in their respective countries. Just imagine what would happen to anyone who produced anything like this.

 

 

That's whataboutism. 

 

(Putin, KJU, Xi - being tyrants, does not excuse Trump from seeking tyranny)

 

 


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  # 2248059 29-May-2019 22:30
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That's whataboutism. 

 

(Putin, KJU, Xi - being tyrants, does not excuse Trump from seeking tyranny)

 

 

I think most who responded to my post missed my point. I wasn't trying to excuse Trump from anything.

 

I was making the point there is an unholy fascination with him. Trump is a narcissist bragging fool who will eventually be replaced by the voters in the US, yet no one seems to be in the slightest bothered by the likes of the other leaders I mentioned. Personally I'm more bothered by the other three leaders - Putin, Kim Il Jong and Xi Jinping, than I am by Trump.





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  # 2248061 29-May-2019 22:39
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China, Russia and the DPRK have already gone over to the Dark Side. America is still just dipping its toes in the water. There is still a chance it can pull back from the brink and regain its sanity. That is what makes the Trump saga so gripping.

 

 





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  # 2248069 29-May-2019 23:11
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Russia, when you objectively look at their capabilities and things like their GDP, is really just a dying regional power trying to hang on to some pretence of being a superpower. North Korean, for all its bellicosity, is not a serious threat to humanity at large in a way that Trump's policies are. China's case (or perhaps more pertinently Xi Jinping's) is certainly more problematic, in view of China's increasing wealth and other facts. I too am not excusing the behaviour of the leaders of these three but in the case of two of them, neither their current nor future projected ability to cause widespread mal-effects upon humanity remotely resembles that of Trump's. 


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  # 2248159 30-May-2019 08:29
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The New York Times - Mueller, in First Comments on Russia Inquiry, Declines to Clear Trump

 

May 29, 2019

 


WASHINGTON — Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, on Wednesday declined to clear President Trump of obstruction of justice in his first public characterization of his two-year-long investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.

 

“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mr. Mueller said, reading from prepared notes behind a lectern at the Justice Department.

 

“We did not, however, make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime.”

 

He also said that while Justice Department policy prohibits charging a sitting president with a crime, the Constitution provides for another process to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing - a clear reference to the ability of Congress to begin impeachment proceedings.

 

Although his remarks closely matched statements contained in his more than 400-page report, Mr. Mueller’s portrayal of Mr. Trump’s actions was not as benign as Attorney General William P. Barr’s characterizations.

 

While Mr. Barr has seemed to question why the special counsel investigated the president’s behavior, Mr. Mueller stressed the gravity of that inquiry.

 

“When a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation or lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of their government’s effort to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable,” he said.

 

He suggested that he was reluctant to testify before Congress, as the House Judiciary Committee has asked.

 

“The report is my testimony,” he said.

 

He said he was grateful to Mr. Barr for releasing the vast majority of the document, and did not expect to comment on it further.

 

He said he was closing the special counsel’s office and returning to private life. ...

 



 

[Once Mueller has retired, the Administration could no longer obstruct a congressional subpoena for Mueller to testify.]

 

 

 

EDIT: 

 

On cable news, the nation’s separate perceptions of reality were reflected in dueling chyrons:

 

Fox News: “Mueller: There was insufficient evidence to charge broader conspiracy.”

 

CNN: “Mueller: ‘If we had confidence the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.’ ”





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  # 2248661 30-May-2019 19:09
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-wanted-uss-john-mccain-out-of-sight-during-trump-japan-visit-11559173470

White House Wanted USS John McCain ‘Out of Sight’ During Trump Japan Visit

U.S. military officials worked to ensure President Trump wouldn’t see the warship that bears the name of the late senator, a frequent target of the president’s ire


A tarp obscures the name of the USS John S. McCain ahead of President Trump's visit to Japan.

The White House wanted the U.S. Navy to move “out of sight” the warship USS John S. McCain ahead of President Trump’s visit to Japan, according to an email reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The ship was named after the father and grandfather of the late senator—a war hero who became a frequent target of Mr. Trump’s ire—and the senator’s name was added to the ship in 2018.

In a May 15 email to U.S. Navy and Air Force officials, a U.S. Indo-Pacific Command official outlined plans for the president’s arrival that he said had resulted from conversations between the White House Military Office and the Seventh Fleet of the U.S. Navy. In addition to instructions for the proper landing areas for helicopters and preparation for the USS Wasp—where the president was scheduled to speak—the official issued a third directive: “USS John McCain needs to be out of sight.”

“Please confirm #3 will be satisfied,” the official wrote.
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  # 2248701 30-May-2019 19:25
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His narcissism is exceeded only by his pettiness.

 

 





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