Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2278238 17-Jul-2019 12:18

The New York Times - House Condemns Trump’s Attack on Four Congresswomen as Racist

July 16, 2019

WASHINGTON — The House voted on Tuesday to condemn as racist President Trump’s attacks against four congresswomen of color, but only after the debate over the president’s language devolved into a bitterly partisan brawl that showcased deep rifts over race, ethnicity and political ideology in the age of Trump.

The highly unusual measure passed nearly along party lines, 240 to 187, after one of the most polarizing exchanges on the House floor in recent times.

Only four Republicans and the House’s lone independent, Representative Justin Amash of Michigan, voted with all Democrats to condemn the president.

“I know racism when I see it, I know racism when I feel it, and at the highest level of government, there’s no room for racism,” thundered Representative John Lewis, Democrat of Georgia, an icon of the civil rights movement who was nearly beaten to death in Alabama in 1965.

Some Republicans were just as adamant in their defense of Mr. Trump: “What has really happened here is that the president and his supporters have been forced to endure months of allegations of racism,” said Representative Dan Meuser, Republican of Pennsylvania. “This ridiculous slander does a disservice to our nation.” ...

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#2278249 17-Jul-2019 12:33

He, and all his supporters, are racists.

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#2278301 17-Jul-2019 14:05

We used to laugh at certain other 'backward' countries when fistfights broke out in their parliaments. No more. This actually could turn into civil war. Why not? It has happened before. Think of it. Civil war in a country with weapons of mass destruction and citizens armed to the teeth.

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#2278313 17-Jul-2019 14:35

freitasm:

He, and all his supporters, are racists.

Trump is undoubtedly a racist.

Many, but not all, of his followers are racists - the remainder are passive enablers - they let Trump get away with racism, even if they disagree with it.

"Silence signifies assent".

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#2278433 17-Jul-2019 16:06

Rikkitic:

We used to laugh at certain other 'backward' countries when fistfights broke out in their parliaments. No more. This actually could turn into civil war. Why not? It has happened before. Think of it. Civil war in a country with weapons of mass destruction and citizens armed to the teeth.

It'll be fine. Only one side has the weapons of mass destruction.

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#2278441 17-Jul-2019 16:30

SaltyNZ:

Rikkitic:

We used to laugh at certain other 'backward' countries when fistfights broke out in their parliaments. No more. This actually could turn into civil war. Why not? It has happened before. Think of it. Civil war in a country with weapons of mass destruction and citizens armed to the teeth.

It'll be fine. Only one side has the weapons of mass destruction.

I remember the good old days of the Cold War and Mutually Assured Destruction.

But that required two superpowers.

Nobody has a country big enough for a nuclear civil war - although Donald may be tempted to wipe out California, which is a good distance from Mar-a-lago. 😕

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#2278510 17-Jul-2019 17:20

If California seceded, it would be the 8th largest country by GDP.

The irony is that while the mid-West hates California liberals, California pays a disportionate amount of federal taxes.

In other words, mid-western conservatives depend on California liberals for the lionshare of the benefits conservatives receive.

Contrary to what many people think, California has more than enough water resources in its own borders, even if the water is not the optimal places, such as Los Angeles.

There's also plenty of food, and port and airport access is exceptional. Given its location California could make life very tough if it were to restrict goods flowing through it to the rest of the US.

So the US needs California, more than California needs the US.

If the entire west coast of the United States succeeded, the 3 states of California Oregon and Washington State, the remaining 47 would be in very very bad shape.

There would also be celebrations in Russia, China, and a number of unpleasant countries if the US broke up.

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"sovereignty is often de facto an 'extralegal' question. Any illegality under U.S. law would be irrelevant, just as the undisputed illegality of American rebellion under the British law of 1775 was rendered irrelevant."

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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-california-secede-20161206-story.html

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#2278594 17-Jul-2019 20:41

As far as I am concerned, it cannot come soon enough!

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#2278666 18-Jul-2019 08:46

The Washington Post - Democrats divided as House to vote on whether to consider Trump impeachment

July 17 at 2:32 PM

Democrats are divided over how to deal with articles of impeachment against President Trump, as the House headed toward a vote Wednesday that will gauge support for ousting the Republican over recent racist comments.

Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.) forced Democratic leaders to confront the issue immediately, filing articles of impeachment Tuesday night accusing Trump of committing high crimes and misdemeanors with racist comments singling out four minority congresswomen.

His resolution on impeachment is privileged, requiring that the House act within two days. ...

But the effort is likely to fail as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who has been reluctant to launch an impeachment inquiry, is expected to use a procedural vote to table, or effectively kill, the resolution. ...

Any vote is politically fraught for Democrats as the party’s liberal base clamors for Trump’s impeachment, and several 2020 presidential candidates call on the House to move swiftly to force him out of office.

So far, 86 House members favor launching an impeachment inquiry, though several were reluctant to endorse Green’s effort. ...

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#2278874 18-Jul-2019 12:23

They are racists. He is racist. Or he would have told the crowd to STFU.

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#2278969 18-Jul-2019 13:26

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The New York Times - House Condemns Trump’s Attack on Four Congresswomen as Racist

July 16, 2019

WASHINGTON — The House voted on Tuesday to condemn as racist President Trump’s attacks against four congresswomen of color, but only after the debate over the president’s language devolved into a bitterly partisan brawl that showcased deep rifts over race, ethnicity and political ideology in the age of Trump.

The highly unusual measure passed nearly along party lines, 240 to 187, after one of the most polarizing exchanges on the House floor in recent times.

Only four Republicans and the House’s lone independent, Representative Justin Amash of Michigan, voted with all Democrats to condemn the president.

“I know racism when I see it, I know racism when I feel it, and at the highest level of government, there’s no room for racism,” thundered Representative John Lewis, Democrat of Georgia, an icon of the civil rights movement who was nearly beaten to death in Alabama in 1965.

Some Republicans were just as adamant in their defense of Mr. Trump: “What has really happened here is that the president and his supporters have been forced to endure months of allegations of racism,” said Representative Dan Meuser, Republican of Pennsylvania. “This ridiculous slander does a disservice to our nation.” ...

Yes this and all that,

Except that Clinton News Networks (hence must be true) reports his popularity has soared since this event.

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#2279103 18-Jul-2019 15:40

Newly-found footages shows Donald Trump, sex offender Jeffrey Epstein at a '92 party

Morning Joe | MSNBC

Newly found footage from NBC News' archives shows Donald Trump apparently talking about women with Jeffrey Epstein, now a registered sex offender, at a party at Mar-a-Lago in November 1992. The party was a decade before Epstein's plea deal in Florida.

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#2279106 18-Jul-2019 15:48

Investigation Into Trump Campaign Finance Violations Is Over, Judge Says

But it is unclear if prosecutors plan to file additional charges in the case, which led to the conviction of Michael D. Cohen, the president’s former lawyer.

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By Ben Protess, William K. Rashbaum and Benjamin Weiser

A federal judge in Manhattan disclosed on Wednesday that prosecutors have concluded their investigation into campaign finance violations involving President Trump and ordered that they publicly release some of their files, a new twist in a case that had threatened to upend the Trump presidency.

The judge’s order did not answer one of the lingering questions of the investigation: whether prosecutors in the United States attorney’s office in Manhattan still plan to file additional charges in connection with the case.

The investigation, which centered on hush money payments arranged during the 2016 presidential campaign to two women who said they had affairs with Mr. Trump, already resulted in the conviction of the president’s former fixer, Michael D. Cohen.

Mr. Cohen, who is now serving a three-year prison sentence, has said he helped arrange the hush money at the direction of Mr. Trump, an accusation that the federal prosecutors in Manhattan ultimately repeated in court papers.

In ordering the unsealing of search warrants and related documents in connection with a 2018 raid on Mr. Cohen’s home and office, the judge, William H. Pauley III, said the campaign finance violations discussed in the papers “are a matter of national importance.”

“Now that the government’s investigation into those violations has concluded,” Judge Pauley wrote, “it is time that every American has an opportunity to scrutinize the materials.”
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#2279152 18-Jul-2019 17:28

Online Knitters Stand Up To White Supremacy

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

A social network for knitting enthusiasts is taking a stand against white supremacy

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#2279153 18-Jul-2019 17:29

Rikkitic: We used to laugh at certain other 'backward' countries when fistfights broke out in their parliaments. No more. This actually could turn into civil war. Why not? It has happened before. Think of it. Civil war in a country with weapons of mass destruction and citizens armed to the teeth.

Well, the first Civil War got the swamp partly drained. A re-run could finish the job.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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