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  # 2327172 30-Sep-2019 15:59
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Apologies if this has been posted already (my constitution hasn't been up to consuming all 947 pages of this thread): this morning I heard an ad for a podcast series on Trump that looks like it could be worth a listen; it's been going for quite some time, but better late than never...

 

Trump, Inc. Exploring the Business of Trump

 

He’s the president, yet we’re still trying to answer basic questions about how his business works: what deals are happening, whom they’re happening with, and if the president and his family are keeping their promise to separate the Trump Organization from the Trump White House.

 

“Trump, Inc.” is a joint reporting project from WNYC Studios and ProPublica that digs deep into those questions. We’ll be laying out what we know, what we don’t and how you can help us fill in the gaps.

 

https://www.propublica.org/series/trump-inc/


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  # 2327185 30-Sep-2019 16:18
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The Washington Post - Intelligence panel has deal to hear whistleblower’s testimony

 

September 29 at 9:17 PM

 


House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff said Sunday that his panel has reached an agreement to secure testimony from the anonymous whistleblower whose detailed complaint launched an impeachment investigation into President Trump.

 

The announcement from Schiff came on the same day that Tom Bossert, a former Trump homeland security adviser, delivered a rebuke of the president, saying in an interview on ABC’s “This Week” that he was “deeply disturbed” by the implications of Trump’s recently reported actions.

 

Those comments come as members of Congress return to their districts for a two-week recess, during which they will either have to make the case for Trump’s impeachment or defend him to voters amid mounting questions about his conduct. ...

 



 

Release the hounds! ....   😒

 

 

 





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  # 2327198 30-Sep-2019 16:47
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linw:

 

Scary as hell. I can imagine there are hundreds of good ol' boys who would volunteer to follow up the idiot's hints.

 

Hope there is protection in place.

 

 

Yes there is - and not FBI as was reported earlier.

 

Trump's threats are 100% NY gangster / organised crime style. Same as his veiled threats to Ukraine.  Always "plausible deniability" as an out.

 

He really should be impeached for that witness intimidation statement he made alone.  Nobody should need protection from threats made by the POTUS - it's absolutely outrageous.

 

He's also tweeted a statement made by some evangelical church leader, more-or-less threatening civil war if he's removed from office.

 

The democrats chasing him on this can't turn back now.  It's got potential to escalate into something extremely ugly and dangerous.  

 

Trump (tweet) :

 

"They are trying to stop ME, because I am fighting for YOU!"

 

 

 


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  # 2327209 30-Sep-2019 17:07
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I have suggested the possibility of civil war in the past. The forces Trump and his daemonic legions are unleashing could easily lead to this. Unfortunately there are plenty of armed to the teeth crazies more than willing to jump into something like this. The greatest hope for American democracy may actually lie with the military. There is a strong tradition of disciplined non-partisanship and civilian rule, but also here Trump has individual supporters.  It depends on how seriously they take their oaths. This could indeed turn very ugly.

 

 





I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney
 


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  # 2327211 30-Sep-2019 17:09
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  # 2327213 30-Sep-2019 17:12
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Trump Ukrainian Dumbsh1t Blues
Rocky Mountain Mike

Trump is in the basement
Snortin' up the medicine
Sittin' on the toilet
Tweetin' 'bout the Government

Talkin' on the telephone
Tryin' to get a dial tone
Callin' up the Ukraine
And his brain's on novocaine

Look out kids, this can't be un-did
God knows when we'll get to normal again
They all ducked down the rabbit hole
Man, that guy's an @sshole
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  # 2327235 30-Sep-2019 17:48
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  # 2327398 1-Oct-2019 08:25
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The New York Times - Trump Raises Idea of Arresting House Chairman for Treason

 

The president questioned whether the leader of the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, had acted illegally in the way he described Mr. Trump’s call with Ukraine’s leader.

 

Sept. 30, 2019

 


WASHINGTON — President Trump on Monday questioned whether the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Representative Adam B. Schiff, should be arrested for treason for his description of a phone call Mr. Trump had with the president of Ukraine during a recent congressional hearing.

 

A day earlier, Mr. Trump called for Mr. Schiff - the California Democrat who is the de facto head of an impeachment inquiry into the call - to be “questioned at the highest level for Fraud & Treason.”

 

 



 

Trump is desperate - a major tweet storm - 80 defensive tweets in the last 24 hours.

 

Schiff made a major tactical error in "dramatically" paraphrasing the Trump phone transcript - this played right into the hands of Team Trump.





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  # 2327410 1-Oct-2019 08:43
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I saw an interview with Stephen Miller on MSNBC yesterday. In manner, style, and appearance, he reminded me of no-one more than Joseph Goebbels. The resemblance was striking, and chilling. 

 

 





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  # 2327448 1-Oct-2019 09:39
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Sideface: President Trump on Monday questioned whether the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Representative Adam B. Schiff, should be arrested for treason


It's too late for Trump, because he obviously never read this (or any) book


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Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins

The discussion was another instance of the president using American diplomacy for potential personal gain.

New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent telephone call to help Attorney General William P. Barr gather information for a Justice Department inquiry that Mr. Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials with knowledge of the call.

...President Trump initiated the discussion in recent weeks with Mr. Morrison explicitly for the purpose of requesting Australia’s help in the Justice Department review of the Russia investigation, according to the two people with knowledge of the discussion. Mr. Barr requested that Mr. Trump speak to Mr. Morrison, one of the people said.

...In making the request, Mr. Trump was in effect asking the Australian government to investigate itself. The F.B.I.’s counterintelligence investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election began after Australian officials told the bureau that the Russian government had made overtures to the Trump campaign about releasing political damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

...Mr. Mueller’s investigation confirmed that Australia played a central role in the origins of the original F.B.I. investigation, even if his final report does not mention the country by name. It said that information from a “foreign government” prompted the F.B.I. to “open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/politics/trump-australia-barr-mueller.html

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  # 2327469 1-Oct-2019 09:52
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kingdragonfly: It's too late for Trump, because he obviously never read this (any any) book.

 

... but he does "write" books:

 





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  # 2327481 1-Oct-2019 10:14
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They've subpoenaed Guiliani to produce documents relating to what he was doing in Ukraine.

He and Trump have tried to claim lawyer:client privilege to stop this, but Guiliani wasn't acting as Trump's personal lawyer - or if they want to keep claiming he was, then that is self-incriminating.

Guiliani has already admitted guilt. In response to a question on a TV interview "So, you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden"
he replied "Of course I did."

That's noted in the subpoena documents, as well as Guiliani claiming that he has texts, phone records, and other documents implicating others in the WH who he's suggested were involved.

They can't walk this back. Best hope for Trump may be if Guiliani throws himself under a bus.

As for the documents, if Guiliani doesn't comply, then he'll be charged with obstruction.


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Fred99: They've subpoenaed Guiliani to produce documents relating to what he was doing in Ukraine. ...

 


Rudy is certainly getting a lot of exposure:

 

 





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kingdragonfly: Trump Pressed Australian Leader to Help Barr Investigate Mueller Inquiry’s Origins

The discussion was another instance of the president using American diplomacy for potential personal gain.

New York Times

WASHINGTON — President Trump pushed the Australian prime minister during a recent telephone call to help Attorney General William P. Barr gather information for a Justice Department inquiry that Mr. Trump hopes will discredit the Mueller investigation, according to two American officials with knowledge of the call.

 

It's the leading story in Aus news sites this morning. Next story is about a Republican congressman (Collins) who just resigned as he' been busted for insider trading shares in an Aus biotech firm - IOW ripping off Australians.

 

This will have ScoMo in a bit of a panic, if he denies it knowing it's true, then there's a record of a conversation released, he'll be in  a spot of bother.

 

FWIW, Scomo had dinner with Trump, along with special invited guest Lachlan Murdoch.


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