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  # 1576888 20-Jun-2016 09:22
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If it could happen at the toilets in Parliment it could have happened anywhere. The officer didn't make a conscious decision based on their location. It shows a lack of due care.


It concerns me when I see people dismissing the seriousness of a matter because nothing terrible happened. 


Is there a downside to it being brought to the attention of all armed officers to take due care of their weapons? We get refresher courses on all sorts of things at work, even if there hasn't been an incident specifically, because vigilance and prevention sure beats the alternatives.



The Police themselves prosecute people all the time for lack of due care... I don't see why they should apply a lesser standard to their own officers.


Plus of course the delicious irony of the Police themselves making a firearm available inside the cordon established to protect our MPs. One does wonder how often it happens, but the gun is recovered without it hitting the media. Perhaps it's worthwhile for terrorists to periodically scour the Parliamentary toilets for weapons?







I'd be inclined to agree that the officer should be punished. People are punished for their mistakes all the time!



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I heard today on the radio that the officer will be facing 3 different investigations??

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  # 1577123 20-Jun-2016 14:06
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This is a pretty monumental stuff up. 




For a civilian to own a glock, they require a B or C endorsement on their firearms licence and even then the storage and use of the firearm are very strictly controlled.  For example a B is for a target shooting pistol and the pistol can only be used at a range.


The cops have to be beyond reproach on this stuff.  What happened simply isn't 'good drills'. 



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  # 1577427 20-Jun-2016 22:22
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New details:

Tldr: hip holster, ground floor of parliament, public bathroom.

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  # 1578885 23-Jun-2016 10:57
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Rikkitic: Whoever left the gun behind is one seriously careless cop, but even so I would doubt the safety was off.


mattwnz: If a child did happen to find it, they probably wouldn't be able to use it anyway, especially as the safety would be on. It also was probably in a staff toilet, which isn't open to the public, and public access to parliament is very restricted anyway. 


mrdrifter: It's a Glock, they don't have a safety. The police holsters I believe are designed in two pieces so the main unit that holds the firearm can be removed from the belt without having to un-holster the firearm itself. The firearm was likely to have still been locked in the holster - retention holsters generally require multiple movements to extricate the firearm i.e press lock in, twist grip and pull out.


I'm sure the officer involved will have had a decent dressing down, but I expect nothing much more will come of this. 


Late to a thread again... Just had a good read through, along with a chuckle at some of the comment that invariably comes from armchair experts well before full facts are known.


Thanks mrdrifter for correcting Rikkitic and mattwnz re the safety - you beat me to the punch. As an aside, the holster you describe has 2 level security which police moved away from in favour of 3 level security some time ago.


I too expect the DPS member will get a severe dressing down. I'd also imagine it's likely to be the end of their DPS career, but not their police career - although this last point will ultimately be up to the person concerned. Given this matter involves negligence in the duties the person was employed/authorised/trained to carry out as opposed to any criminal wrongdoing it is an employment matter, not a criminal one. A good example is the guy behind this still being in police (the statement about no damage [3rd to last para] is correct - not the one claiming damage [3rd para] to the aircraft).

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