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  Reply # 1667072 10-Nov-2016 06:13
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Trump won the election because the people of America were tired of the ‘club’ that Washington has become. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Clinton would have meant only 3 families had been in the Oval Office in for at least 32 years.

 

 

That said I believe Obama would have been a shoe in at this election if her was eligible.


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  Reply # 1667073 10-Nov-2016 06:15
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M. Obama will probably be a shoe in to be a future president though . Although I am still not sure they are ready yet for a female president, let alone a black female president. I think the female thing played a major role in Hillary not getting in, and also it was her personality, or lack of it. She isn't charismatic which is needed in a leader. Also the whole FBI thing when people were voting didn't help at all.

 

It is going to be so interesting to see what happens.  I suspect there will be some major world events that will occur during his term.

 

 

 

 

Let us but hope this is the case, I don't think you could think of a better representative that her.

 

Hillary had a lot of haters out there, I think it was less of a woman thing and more about her personally.

 

 

 

Lets hope NZ learns from this and starts to vote FOR our candidate's not AGAINST them in our next election.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1667074 10-Nov-2016 06:34
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My speech if I was Obama...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi0uX2sZuFg 


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  Reply # 1667076 10-Nov-2016 07:11
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Tricky, the Republicans now have a lot of power, the electoral mandate, the House, the Senate. That means there is zero excuse for not delivering his promises, unlike Obama who had to fight the opposition. 

 

It shows how much want the people had for change. They voted him in, but they also voted 60 plus percent, to give illegals a pathway, exactly opposite to Trump. Was this a Trump win, or a not status quo win?

 

How can he:

 

Build the wall, when his voters also voted for illegals to have a pathway

 

Cut taxes, who will fund that? Huge revenue loss

 

Rebuild the infrastructure to be the best in the world, who will fund that? Although employment will be positive. Huge costs

 

Push up debt to restructure the country is the only option I can see.

 

Slow down trade. That will require the globe to rethink everything, the US may be left out in the cold as the globe tariffs them for what they have to import, and builds stable trade relationships with non US nations over time. Maybe we will all enjoy free trade, import what little we can from the US and tariff them for what they need. Interesting times

 

 


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  Reply # 1667079 10-Nov-2016 07:15
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A new day, no sun dammit Obama you lied. Still we are here and the world is still the same................ for now.




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  Reply # 1667083 10-Nov-2016 07:26
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 I trust the president of Russia far more than I do other politicians, so it's nice to hear dialogue between the two parties has already taken place.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/365966-putin-trump-congratulates-victory/

 

 

 

 

Trump's had hearty congrats from Duterte, Marine Le Pen, Nigel Farage, even Pauline Hanson.

 

His kind of people, apparently.


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  Reply # 1667085 10-Nov-2016 07:34
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DravidDavid:


 I trust the president of Russia far more than I do other politicians, so it's nice to hear dialogue between the two parties has already taken place.


https://www.rt.com/news/365966-putin-trump-congratulates-victory/



 


Trump's had hearty congrats from Duterte, Marine Le Pen, Nigel Farage, even Pauline Hanson.


His kind of people, apparently.



I wouldn't read too much into the suck up brigade.




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  Reply # 1667126 10-Nov-2016 08:46
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DravidDavid:

 

 I trust the president of Russia far more than I do other politicians, so it's nice to hear dialogue between the two parties has already taken place.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/365966-putin-trump-congratulates-victory/

 

 

Trust him to do what? Manipulate the system to undermine democracy? Invade other countries? Exterminate ethnic minorities? Persecute the Rainbow community? Give the finger to the rest of the world? Start a cult of personality? Supress free speech? Run a criminal organisation? Appeal to demagoguery? What a wonderful leadership example!

 

 





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  Reply # 1667130 10-Nov-2016 08:50
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I am wondering if Trump is Sh!tting himself now :) When he wakes up to the enormity of having to do what he promised... Wonder what Pence is like as President?

 

I hope he takes this seriously. Maybe he will have the highest staff turn over of any President. Some of the reasons he sacked people on the apprentice defied belief. 

 

 

 

 

According to Southpark, which as we all know is the font of contemporary wisdom, the Douche realised this some time ago and was desperately (unsuccessfully) trying to convince people to elect his opponent, the unsavoury sandwich. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1667140 10-Nov-2016 08:58
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Rikkitic:

 

DravidDavid:

 

 I trust the president of Russia far more than I do other politicians, so it's nice to hear dialogue between the two parties has already taken place.

 

https://www.rt.com/news/365966-putin-trump-congratulates-victory/

 

 

Trust him to do what? Manipulate the system to undermine democracy? Invade other countries? Exterminate ethnic minorities? Persecute the Rainbow community? Give the finger to the rest of the world? Start a cult of personality? Supress free speech? Run a criminal organisation? Appeal to demagoguery? What a wonderful leadership example!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grenada, Vietnam, Panama, Iraq, Sioux, Apache, Cheyanne .......

 

Bully small nations who make a decision they don't like, let me think, quite close to home, that's right NZ





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  Reply # 1667161 10-Nov-2016 09:31
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So what are we saying here? The fact the America does it as well makes it okay that Russia does it? God, I hope not. I guess we could go through a list of all world leaders and pass judgement on their qualities, but to return to Putin, who was the subject of my reply, trusting him is like trusting a crocodile, and anyone who does is seriously deluding themselves.

 

 





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  Reply # 1667162 10-Nov-2016 09:33
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what I am saying is don't believe the propaganda. Two wrongs do not make a right.





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Glad that Trump won. Now lets hope both he and Putin can get together with a bottle of Vodka and Whiskey to start a dialogue which might make this world a little bit safer.

 

The idea of Hillary winning with all those nuclear capable US rocket launchers sitting off the western Russia border was giving me nightmares...


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  Reply # 1667185 10-Nov-2016 09:54
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DravidDravid: Yea, one of the greatest arguments for the Trump presidency is that he gains nothing by running. His private jet is a downgrade, the whitehouse is a downgrade, his payslip is a downgrade and his over-all lifestyle is going to be a downgrade. He had nothing to gain other than the title. He's said since the early nineties (or even before that) that he would only run if he felt he needed to step in and make positive change because he loves America.

Wrong. There is an enormous amount Trump will gain financially and personally from this position. He has no legal obligation to give up anything when he enters the presidency, and he will continue to trade. Preferably he will find a successor later to avoid any potential prosecutions that come up. He will not drain the swamp, just make it his own.

I can't see major changes unless they change their electoral system and system of government. It's actually surprising it is not a whole lot worse.

 

 

 

He does gain free Secret Service protection for the remainder of his life!






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  Reply # 1667189 10-Nov-2016 09:56
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networkn:

 

I am wondering if Trump is Sh!tting himself now :) When he wakes up to the enormity of having to do what he promised... Wonder what Pence is like as President?

 

I hope he takes this seriously. Maybe he will have the highest staff turn over of any President. Some of the reasons he sacked people on the apprentice defied belief. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wonder if Cabinet meetings will be like The Apprentice?!






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