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  Reply # 1715541 4-Feb-2017 20:03
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MikeB4:

I am not wanting to be a pain and my enquiry is genuine but can someone please show a direct quote that Trump has said that he is banning Muslims, not Mr* reporting he said or such like. It is an important distinction.


Does a statement made by his campaign count?

DonaldJTrump.Com :DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON PREVENTING MUSLIM IMMIGRATION (New York, NY)

December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.

It was a central pillar of his campaign from the beginning. He referred to it often.

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  Reply # 1715542 4-Feb-2017 20:08
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He is a lunatic, with some terrible, and some reasonable ideas.





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  Reply # 1715545 4-Feb-2017 20:11
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I can understand why the poor guy needs a holiday already. He's been so busy destabilising the world for the last two weeks.


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  Reply # 1715568 4-Feb-2017 20:14
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MikeB4:

 

I am not wanting to be a pain and my enquiry is genuine but can someone please show a direct quote that Trump has said that he is banning Muslims, not Mr* reporting he said or such like. It is an important distinction.

 

 

You've got time to post here, so you've certainly got time to research yourself instead of trying to nitpick. Here's a series of quotes that took me mere seconds to find.

EDIT: A tweet straight from the horses mouth after a little more (brief) searching


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  Reply # 1715575 4-Feb-2017 21:59
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Dratsab:
MikeB4:

 

I am not wanting to be a pain and my enquiry is genuine but can someone please show a direct quote that Trump has said that he is banning Muslims, not Mr* reporting he said or such like. It is an important distinction.

 


You've got time to post here, so you've certainly got time to research yourself instead of trying to nitpick. Here's a series of quotes that took me mere seconds to find.

EDIT: A tweet straight from the horses mouth after a little more (brief) searching


I did say that my query was genuine but ok please yourself I'm out again.





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  Reply # 1715579 4-Feb-2017 22:56
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DarthKermit:

 

I can understand why the poor guy needs a holiday already. He's been so busy destabilising the world for the last two weeks.

 

 

I don't feel he is destabilising the world. They all aren't happy. He is destabilising himself and his hand picked team, and the US. I rate the annoyance of the world, and inconvenience to the banned to be a small price to pay so far. All the damage is where it belongs. McCain will have a growing band if respected Senators joining him I feel. Its not good people wanting to overthrow other good people leading the country. I'd wager they are watching for the time to ramp that up. Two weeks in, and here we are. 


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  Reply # 1715580 4-Feb-2017 22:59
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tdgeek:

 

DarthKermit:

 

I can understand why the poor guy needs a holiday already. He's been so busy destabilising the world for the last two weeks.

 

 

I don't feel he is destabilising the world. They all aren't happy. He is destabilising himself and his hand picked team, and the US. I rate the annoyance of the world, and inconvenience to the banned to be a small price to pay so far. All the damage is where it belongs. McCain will have a growing band if respected Senators joining him I feel. Its not good people wanting to overthrow other good people leading the country. I'd wager they are watching for the time to ramp that up. Two weeks in, and here we are. 

 

 

He's not destabilizing anything, he's establishing himself as a dictator. And doing very well. 


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  Reply # 1715581 4-Feb-2017 23:04
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tdgeek:

 

DarthKermit:

 

I can understand why the poor guy needs a holiday already. He's been so busy destabilising the world for the last two weeks.

 

 

I don't feel he is destabilising the world. They all aren't happy. He is destabilising himself and his hand picked team, and the US. I rate the annoyance of the world, and inconvenience to the banned to be a small price to pay so far. All the damage is where it belongs. McCain will have a growing band if respected Senators joining him I feel. Its not good people wanting to overthrow other good people leading the country. I'd wager they are watching for the time to ramp that up. Two weeks in, and here we are. 

 

 

He's not destabilizing anything, he's establishing himself as a dictator. And doing very well. 

 

 

Well, your right.

 

My spellcheck didn't correct the word dictator either...


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  Reply # 1715582 4-Feb-2017 23:07
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Dratsab:
MikeB4:

 

I am not wanting to be a pain and my enquiry is genuine but can someone please show a direct quote that Trump has said that he is banning Muslims, not Mr* reporting he said or such like. It is an important distinction.

 

 

You've got time to post here, so you've certainly got time to research yourself instead of trying to nitpick. Here's a series of quotes that took me mere seconds to find.

EDIT: A tweet straight from the horses mouth after a little more (brief) searching

 



Also he mentions banning here at about 5 minutes in. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4p59C1E8U Also watch the whole thing because it just shows what a joke it has become.


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  Reply # 1715585 4-Feb-2017 23:28
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The first step of becoming a dictator is to render the checks and balances toothless.

So I'm watching closely the court orders would be followed or not. Apparently all the country's department policies have been overridden by his executive orders. If court orders are then ignored you have seen confirmation.

Overthrow him i hear you say ... Well if Russia has a hand in this and continues to help him, there is a guy that has had the kitchen sink thrown at him and he's still in power. Basher al Assad.

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  Reply # 1715589 5-Feb-2017 00:16
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joker97: The first step of becoming a dictator is to render the checks and balances toothless.

So I'm watching closely the court orders would be followed or not. Apparently all the country's department policies have been overridden by his executive orders. If court orders are then ignored you have seen confirmation.

Overthrow him i hear you say ... Well if Russia has a hand in this and continues to help him, there is a guy that has had the kitchen sink thrown at him and he's still in power. Basher al Assad.

 

Different situation. Trump staying in power is in the hands of himself, and his party. Either impeachment or a strong measure of support against him by Senators and the GOP seniors. Seems relatively easy elsewhere to "overthrow" your party's leader, not sure about the US. But if the recopy judge gets his way, that could mean that Trump did not live up to his pledge to honour the Constitution. Read that on CNN today. Maybe he will fire that one as well.


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  Reply # 1715591 5-Feb-2017 00:24
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sbiddle:

MikeB4:
Has he actually said he is banning Muslim people?


Trump campaigned on banning Muslim people from entering the US.



(New York, NY) December 7th, 2015, -- Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. According to Pew Research, among others, there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population. Most recently, a poll from the Center for Security Policy released data showing "25% of those polled agreed that violence against Americans here in the United States is justified as a part of the global jihad" and 51% of those polled, "agreed that Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to Shariah." Shariah authorizes such atrocities as murder against non-believers who won't convert, beheadings and more unthinkable acts that pose great harm to Americans, especially women.


 


Mr. Trump stated, "Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again." - Donald J. Trump



 


 



So the complaints are about a politician doing just what he said he would do?
That's normally something people complain about when it doesn't happen!





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  Reply # 1715592 5-Feb-2017 00:42
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I'll paste MF's recent post.

 

"It is how it was done more than what was done I think."


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  Reply # 1715594 5-Feb-2017 00:50
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Geektastic: 

 

 

 


So the complaints are about a politician doing just what he said he would do?
That's normally something people complain about when it doesn't happen!

 

 

 

I think most people felt that he wouldn't follow through with much of what he said he may do, mainly because the policies don't really appear to be republican policies. The republicans have been in power for years, so I think many people just expected him to tow the party line, and his policies would get diluted.


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  Reply # 1715596 5-Feb-2017 01:01
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Interesting perspective here, comparing the furore over some of the US actions with the complete lack of furore over similar actions in some EU states.

 

 

 

For example:

 

 

 

"Let me spell out the facts. Many European politicians treat migrants — and, in particular, Muslims — more disgracefully than they are being dealt with by Trump.
For example, Hungary’s Prime Minister, Viktor Orban, wants to build a ‘massive’ fence to stop refugees crossing into his country from the East. He calls migrants ‘a poison’ that Hungary ‘won’t swallow’."

 








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