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  Reply # 1667343 10-Nov-2016 13:23
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old3eyes:

 

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I'm waiting for all these celebs that backed Hillary and swore that if Trump won they would quit the US, to do just that.

 

Truth is most/all will not as they're leeches with their own financial interests at heart.

 

Cher said she would rather live on Jupiter -  a project for Elon Musk maybe?

 

 

So far Trump has been gracious in victory. Not a bad example to follow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gracious in words does not equal gracious in actions. His words do not alter the underlining disaster.

 

 

Would hate to be one of the millions on Obama Care.  It will be gone by lunchtime after he is swarn in. No money or insurance no healthcare.. 

 

 

 

 

it wont be that easy if the republicans cancel it they have to find 33 billion [estimate] of taxes that the bill brings in .





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  Reply # 1667347 10-Nov-2016 13:34
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nunz:

 

There are a few inescapable things that we know today:

 

1 - USA will vote for a misogynistic, racist, egotistical man who wants to boink his own daughter, a man with a complete apparent lack of moral fibre anywhere, than a woman.

 

 

The list was way too long. So I'll just address this one on the assumption that it's the best you've got. And because of Godwin's Law.

 

He does NOT (as far as anyone really knows) want to boink his own daughter. What he *did* say was that, if she wasn't his daughter, he'd want to boink her. Completely different things. The rest of the disparagement I agree with. But he wouldn't be the first misogynistic, racist, egotistical man to be President. Perhaps the first completely amoral one. But the other side is *not* about being a woman. I'd wager that if Michelle Obama had stood for President, she would have been elected (unless someone dug up a whole heap of dirt). Hillary Clinton is also egotistical, deceitful, and immoral, and as much as anything, that's what brought her down. In fact, I'd argue that you wouldn't run for President if you weren't egotistical, and wouldn't succeed at it if you weren't deceitful.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1667348 10-Nov-2016 13:34
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old3eyes:

 

 

 

Would hate to be one of the millions on Obama Care.  It will be gone by lunchtime after he is swarn in. No money or insurance no healthcare.. 

 

 

I don't think you really get how many people didn't want Obama care in it's current state. They have essentially voted him in because he is promising to do things differently. I think you'd find quite a number of Americans

 

who believe there should be funded healthcare, which is managed differently. He isn't saying no healthcare, he is saying done differently. 

 

Because he has the house, senate and presidency, there is nothing really, to stop him. America will get what they deserve, and ultimately as proven, what they ACTUALLY want.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1667363 10-Nov-2016 13:44
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MAGA!




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  Reply # 1667365 10-Nov-2016 13:47
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joker97:

 

MikeB4:
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It'd be a very strange turn of events if a powerful megalomaniac leader, who on many occasions has incited hatred to gain popular support during his rise, is going to go around the world spreading love and peace.

 

 

 

He's pro-torture and said he'd deliberately "target and kill the families and children" of enemies. 

 



The President does not rule alone, the President is not a Dictator.

 

Not yet.

 

 

 

 

Actually, he's very close to having all the power of a dictator, with majority in both houses and the ability to stack SCOTUS as he wishes.

 

 


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  Reply # 1667367 10-Nov-2016 13:50
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frankv:

 

nunz:

 

There are a few inescapable things that we know today:

 

1 - USA will vote for a misogynistic, racist, egotistical man who wants to boink his own daughter, a man with a complete apparent lack of moral fibre anywhere, than a woman.

 

 

The list was way too long. So I'll just address this one on the assumption that it's the best you've got. And because of Godwin's Law.

 

He does NOT (as far as anyone really knows) want to boink his own daughter. What he *did* say was that, if she wasn't his daughter, he'd want to boink her. Completely different things. The rest of the disparagement I agree with. But he wouldn't be the first misogynistic, racist, egotistical man to be President. Perhaps the first completely amoral one. But the other side is *not* about being a woman. I'd wager that if Michelle Obama had stood for President, she would have been elected (unless someone dug up a whole heap of dirt). Hillary Clinton is also egotistical, deceitful, and immoral, and as much as anything, that's what brought her down. In fact, I'd argue that you wouldn't run for President if you weren't egotistical, and wouldn't succeed at it if you weren't deceitful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You consider Obama deceitful and egotistical? I mean to a degree it's pretty much how politics works, but I wouldn't have thought of him in those terms primarily.

 

 


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  Reply # 1667368 10-Nov-2016 13:50
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old3eyes:

 

 

 

Would hate to be one of the millions on Obama Care.  It will be gone by lunchtime after he is swarn in. No money or insurance no healthcare.. 

 

 

I don't think you really get how many people didn't want Obama care in it's current state. They have essentially voted him in because he is promising to do things differently. I think you'd find quite a number of Americans

 

who believe there should be funded healthcare, which is managed differently. He isn't saying no healthcare, he is saying done differently. 

 

Because he has the house, senate and presidency, there is nothing really, to stop him. America will get what they deserve, and ultimately as proven, what they ACTUALLY want.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

fair enough but the republicans have nothing to replace it with, if they just cancel it it will leave up to 25 million people suddenly without healthcare and no way to afford private insurance. and these are the same people who voted Trump into power.





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  Reply # 1667371 10-Nov-2016 13:53
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fair enough but the republicans have nothing to replace it with, if they just cancel it it will leave up to 25 million people suddenly without healthcare and no way to afford private insurance. and these are the same people who voted Trump into power.

 

 

What did Winston Churchill say about the average voter?





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  Reply # 1667373 10-Nov-2016 13:55
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networkn:

 

 

 

 

 

You consider Obama deceitful and egotistical? I mean to a degree it's pretty much how politics works, but I wouldn't have thought of him in those terms primarily.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fire ahead with suggestions of how you see him.

 

Deceitful and egotistic seem pretty much on the mark to me, at or near the top of a long list of negative attributes he's shown to possess.

 

 


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  Reply # 1667374 10-Nov-2016 13:59
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vexxxboy:

 

old3eyes:

 

MikeB4:

 

Rikkitic:

 

cynnicallemon

 

I'm waiting for all these celebs that backed Hillary and swore that if Trump won they would quit the US, to do just that.

 

Truth is most/all will not as they're leeches with their own financial interests at heart.

 

Cher said she would rather live on Jupiter -  a project for Elon Musk maybe?

 

 

So far Trump has been gracious in victory. Not a bad example to follow.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gracious in words does not equal gracious in actions. His words do not alter the underlining disaster.

 

 

Would hate to be one of the millions on Obama Care.  It will be gone by lunchtime after he is swarn in. No money or insurance no healthcare.. 

 

 

 

 

it wont be that easy if the republicans cancel it they have to find 33 billion [estimate] of taxes that the bill brings in .

 

 

Plus he needs to fund his large tax cuts. Plus he needs to fund the infrastructure rebuild to be the best in the world. He complained about the debt the US has.

 

Your post and my two addons are a massive, massive cost. Clearly the financial reality is lost on his voters, money doesn't grow on trees. Well it does actually, but you know what I mean


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  Reply # 1667376 10-Nov-2016 14:02
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networkn:

 

frankv:

 

In fact, I'd argue that you wouldn't run for President if you weren't egotistical, and wouldn't succeed at it if you weren't deceitful.

 

 

You consider Obama deceitful and egotistical? I mean to a degree it's pretty much how politics works, but I wouldn't have thought of him in those terms primarily.

 

 

I don't know about primarily, and have no direct evidence to judge on. But, yes, I'm fairly confident... politics is about getting others to do what you want. You don't get into that unless you think your ideas are better than theirs, or that you are better than them. And you won't get far in politics if you tell the complete truth.

 

 


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  Reply # 1667377 10-Nov-2016 14:03
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Plus he needs to fund the infrastructure rebuild to be the best in the world.

 

Well, Ford customers will be funding the wall if Ford take their manufacturing plant to Mexico.


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  Reply # 1667382 10-Nov-2016 14:09
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vexxxboy:

 

fair enough but the republicans have nothing to replace it with, if they just cancel it it will leave up to 25 million people suddenly without healthcare and no way to afford private insurance. and these are the same people who voted Trump into power.

 

 

 

 

That's not actually true. The Republicans actually didn't object to Healthcare being provided to all, but they wanted it done differently. The plan may not be concrete yet, but despite what some may believe there will be Democrat(ic) consideration of the new healthcare regime. 

 

I believe 3-4 years from now it will look different but still exist. Whether it still protects everyone to the same level, that is obviously yet to be determined, but I'd expect not, but it may be FAIRER to everyone, which is what I think most Americans wanted.

 

I am not an Obamacare expert by any stretch.

 

It's also worth noting that Presidental candidates do get top level briefings so they can provide a reasonable platform of campaign promises, but the full extent of the way things work, aren't apparent till after you are Elected, and some things are kept until you are sworn in. 

 

It's why Obama campaigned on removal of Gitmo, but didn't actually remove it, and apologised to the people that he wasn't able to remove it, because it would have put the safety of the people at risk.

 

Shouldering the load of the Presidency is an awesome and heavy responsibility. It's why people age so quickly. 

 

I can't recall which President said that he almost wished he never knew the threats that existed in the world once he got his first weekly security briefings as President. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1667383 10-Nov-2016 14:11
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Well as I said Hillary should have stepped aside. Anyway, just wondering, who will lead the opposition? Is there such a thing in the US congress? Is Hillary staying or retiring from politics?





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  Reply # 1667386 10-Nov-2016 14:17
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

Plus he needs to fund his large tax cuts. Plus he needs to fund the infrastructure rebuild to be the best in the world. He complained about the debt the US has.

 

Your post and my two addons are a massive, massive cost. Clearly the financial reality is lost on his voters, money doesn't grow on trees. Well it does actually, but you know what I mean

 

 

 

 

I don't know if the financial reality is lost, just dismissed as evidence of a conspiracy against Trump, along with most (all?) other valid criticism.


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