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  Reply # 1667417 10-Nov-2016 14:51
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Geektastic:

 

 

 

Yes that is the new whiny way of it as we have seen with Brexit. 

 

 

Yes and the political elite are trying to undermine the Article 50 process. As Nigel Farage warned, this will be potential suicide for the British political system. UK and US have the same problem essentially, all parties have a core of globalists in them and they will combine to try and turn over what Joe Public have democratically voted for. I expect to see attempts to further discredit Trump by the opposition and from some on his own side too.

 

Perhaps the political elite may force major unrest in the next couple of months to bring about marshall law and therefore keep a hold of power under that ruling.

 

Sounds stupid? We've witnessed some strange things with both Brexit and the race to the Whitehouse.


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  Reply # 1667418 10-Nov-2016 14:52
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tdgeek:

 

DravidDavid:

 

I can't wait to hear his 100 day plan to drain the swamp and see the plans for his new wall.

 

 

Voters have started their plan already. Big protests and scuffles outside Trump Tower at the moment.

 

 

I know, the butt-hurt is endless.  It's hilarious.






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  Reply # 1667419 10-Nov-2016 14:54
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MikeB4:

 

 

 

 yep that's democracy, you get the good you get the bad. If they don't want that then don't live in a democracy.

 

 

 

 

This time they got the Bad and the Ugly.  Only 2/3 of a spaghetti western.


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  Reply # 1667422 10-Nov-2016 15:01
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Fred99:

 

 

 

This time they got the Bad and the Ugly.  Only 2/3 of a spaghetti western.

 

 

Well they've had a Fistful of Dollars for the last several years.

 

Anyway, where better to stage a spaghetti western than NY... maybe that should be a spaghetti eastern.


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  Reply # 1667428 10-Nov-2016 15:11
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MikeB4:

 

tdgeek:

 

Voters have started their plan already. Big protests and scuffles outside Trump Tower at the moment.

 

 

 That's stupid, these protests by the anti Trump sector shows that the so called greatest democracy does not really believe in democracy.

 

 

Indeed.

 

...and to shamelessly steal someone else's sentiments:

 

 

When all the non-racist, non-misogynist, non-homophobic, non-bigoted, everyday ordinary people get so sick of you calling them racists, misogynists, homophobes and bigots that they go out any vote against your candidate, do you:

 

A. Reevaluate your personal conduct and strategy of convincing people to share your politics?

 

Or.

 

B. Call them racists, misogynists, homophobes and bigots and yell at them even more?

 

It would seem that quite a few Americans are choosing B.  And that's exactly why their candidate lost.

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1667432 10-Nov-2016 15:18
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Someone snapped an image of Democrats leaving their "party"

 


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  Reply # 1667440 10-Nov-2016 15:22
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With that I will depart this thread





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Using empathy takes no energy and can gain so much. Try it.

 

 


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  Reply # 1667443 10-Nov-2016 15:27
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"Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead," she finished, before moving towards the crowd to hug and console her people.

 

It's actually a pretty good sentiment. I was dead against Trump, but I woke this morning marvelling at what he had managed to achieve. I don't believe (all) his motives are evil or nefarious. I do think he wants America to be better.  His definition of better is different from some of us, but that is the basis by which we have opposition parties.

 

I think it's reasonable to have an open mind and let the evidence of his Presidency speak for itself. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1667480 10-Nov-2016 15:43
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freitasm:

 

Open mind is all good, until Joe Arpaio is one of the options for Homeland Security Secretary.

 

 

David Clarke is an obvious choice but is also doing a pretty fine job where he is serving his community.


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  Reply # 1667481 10-Nov-2016 15:43
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If someone had told me two years ago that Trump would be the next prez, I would have phoned the men in the white coats to lock them up.

 

Hopefully for the sake of our world he won't be as bad as many (including myself) have thought. Whatever happens, it will be an interesting four years ahead...


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  Reply # 1667490 10-Nov-2016 15:45
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MikeB4: This result heralds a new Era, that does not necessarily mean a violent Era. Things will different but the World in general is not the same place it was in the 30's

 

Agreed - but there are a lot of really bad things different here too.

 

Fascism and Govt control is on the ris.e Political Correctness is the very thing that Geroge Orwell called New Speak. The hiding and down play of realities using speech. kidnapping nad torture becomes rendition, secret police nad non-judicial incarceration becomes homeland Security / Guantanamo and policing of the populance isn't just the TSA taking finger prints / eyeball shots of those transiting a country but even in NZ things like having to produce photo Id to deposit cash into your bank account has become standard practice? Why? Because the Govt either thinks we are all criminals and is treating us as guilty until proven innocent or wants to know and control to a finer level of detail in our private lives.

 

 

 

We now tolerate higher levels of Govt interference than a person in the 30s, 40s or 50s would ever stand. in those days that type of action was called creeping communism or fascism. Now its just business as usual.

 

also sine the 30 and 40s the ability to commit your populace to war has got progressively easie.r USA has entered (illegally) armed forces into Panama, Columbia, Cuba, Afghanistahn, iraq, Pahkistahn - to name a few. Their war tempo is increasing - possibly for the same reason emperors used to u pthe number of Christians thrown to the lions nad bread thrown to the masses - to take their mind off the issues at home and focus it on a common enemy.

 

The US Govt under George W Bush threatened to take action ( armed) against the UN if they looked at prosecuting or pushing issues of war crimes in the USA. The USa sided against the democratically elected Govt of Syria  - because tey didn't like their version of democracy. Ditto Chile when it went commuinst and various other S. American countries.

 

 

 

since 1945 we have seen them go to war in:

 

Korea,  Cuba, Vietnam, Dominican Republic ( to stop it going communist), Lebanon, Grenada (to over throw socialist Govt), Panama, Gulf (V 1.0) Gulf (v 2.0) Afghanistahn, Ethiopia (Black Hawk down), Panama, Haiti, and back to Afghanistahn again ( yes they were involved in the Af back in the 70's and 80's, training Bin Laden along the way).

 

 

 

they also toppled iran and installed a new regime, installed Saddam Hussein, etc etc.

 

Their tempo is increasing - they are threatening iran (again) but now they have torture, rendition, secret police ( under homeland security act /), non -judicial imprisonment, and a huge groundswell of support to free the world - bless our boys in blue,/ green and khaki.

 

In the 30's Trump would never have been tolerated. his lack of morality alone would have seen him bumped and his unpatriotic flaunting of tax etc would have had him reviled.

 

it's not the 30's but the 30's had a solid moral backing, historical social structures and an ideal that the war to end all wars means we wouldn't go there again - but were forced to. Now its sport, played out on TV from drone strike cameras and in missle video feed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1667491 10-Nov-2016 15:46
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MikeB4:
Fred99:

 

It'd be a very strange turn of events if a powerful megalomaniac leader, who on many occasions has incited hatred to gain popular support during his rise, is going to go around the world spreading love and peace.

 

 

 

He's pro-torture and said he'd deliberately "target and kill the families and children" of enemies. 

 

 

 

 

 



The President does not rule alone, the President is not a Dictator.

 

He is however the Commander In Chief - and can make decisions for the armed forces without needing complete overe sight.

 

 





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  Reply # 1667493 10-Nov-2016 15:51
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One thing I found amusing last night was Duncan Garner who appeared to be eating sour grapes judging by his facial expressions.


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