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  Reply # 1793447 2-Jun-2017 08:57
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Interestingly CNN reports that the US can't actually even send the letter notifying they will pull out till 2019 and can't actually confirm pulling out till November 2020 - so Trump can't actually do anything unless he is reelected

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  Reply # 1793448 2-Jun-2017 09:00
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Dratsab:
In respect of the Paris Accord, he's saying he's open to negotiating a "fairer" deal for the USA. I think the rest of the world needs to slap massive taxes on US products.

 

 

Yeah... the whole point of the Paris Accord was that everyone manages their climate effect internally. If the US is going to damage our climate, then they need to pay for it. But, like Trump's proposed Mexican wall tariff, this isn't going to make them pay for it.

 

I would also like to see exactly why the current agreement is (perceived as) unfair to the USA.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1793454 2-Jun-2017 09:20
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Elon Musk is rich enough already. He can do precisely as he pleases with no adverse effect on his personal comfort....

Principles are easy to observe when in that position.





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  Reply # 1793455 2-Jun-2017 09:22
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Mods: there's one of those things that makes the right side vanish on a mobile somewhere above.





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  Reply # 1793456 2-Jun-2017 09:23
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Geektastic: Elon Musk is rich enough already. He can do precisely as he pleases with no adverse effect on his personal comfort....

Principles are easy to observe when in that position.

 

Musk also has a financial  motive for the US staying in . Impose more tax on carbon produces is good for his electric battery and EV industry. 





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  Reply # 1793463 2-Jun-2017 09:32
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frankv:

 

Dratsab:
In respect of the Paris Accord, he's saying he's open to negotiating a "fairer" deal for the USA. I think the rest of the world needs to slap massive taxes on US products.

 

 

Yeah... the whole point of the Paris Accord was that everyone manages their climate effect internally. If the US is going to damage our climate, then they need to pay for it. But, like Trump's proposed Mexican wall tariff, this isn't going to make them pay for it.

 

I would also like to see exactly why the current agreement is (perceived as) unfair to the USA.

 

 

 

 

 

 

He claims it's a breach of US sovereignty. 

 

The real reason is that he's done it because he can, because he's very stupid, and acted at the behest of an administration and lobbyists who'll line their own pockets with dirty money.

 

 


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  Reply # 1793469 2-Jun-2017 09:41
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So, is the membership in the Paris accord something that the President can decide unilaterally?


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  Reply # 1793471 2-Jun-2017 09:49
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Paul1977:

 

 

 

It seems pretty clear that he started to type "coverage" when he was distracted by a squirrel and hastily dropped his phone to go and chase it.

 

 

I really wish he would go and chase squirrels:

 

     

  1. He could replace the current ginger cat on his head with a squirrel - would look more natural
  2. Always a possibility a car could get him
  3. He would be less dangerous to the world

 

His followers will be really proud of him though - the more stupid he is the more staunch they think he is - I can hear it now "USA USA USA!"





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  Reply # 1793523 2-Jun-2017 10:36
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A true mark of real stupidity is the inability to recognise it. Most dim-witted people know they are dim-witted and simply accept it. Only a complete imbecile is so dumb that he thinks he is bright.

 

 





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  Reply # 1793571 2-Jun-2017 11:24
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Rikkitic:

 

A true mark of real stupidity is the inability to recognise it. Most dim-witted people know they are dim-witted and simply accept it. Only a complete imbecile is so dumb that he thinks he is bright.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"How happy is the moron, he doesn't give a damn.

 

I wish I were a moron. My god! Perhaps I am!"






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Rikkitic:

 

A true mark of real stupidity is the inability to recognise it. Most dim-witted people know they are dim-witted and simply accept it. Only a complete imbecile is so dumb that he thinks he is bright.

 

 

 

 

At the end of the day, IQ doesn't talk, money talks. And those with high IQs serve those with low IQs but have plenty of money. Do you see scientists, chess players, researchers get rich? Who do you see on the news everyday being super rich?

 

That's how it goes I'm afraid ... school drop out owning many properties, university grad working for him/her can't afford to pay rent.


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Rikkitic:

 

A true mark of real stupidity is the inability to recognise it. Most dim-witted people know they are dim-witted and simply accept it. Only a complete imbecile is so dumb that he thinks he is bright.

 

 

More specifically the Dunning-Kruger Effect:

 

"In the field of psychology, the Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias, wherein persons of low ability suffer from illusory superiority when they mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. The cognitive bias of illusory superiority derives from the metacognitive inability of low-ability persons to recognize their own ineptitude. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence."

 

"As described by David Dunning and Justin Kruger, the cognitive bias of illusory superiority results from an internal illusion in people of low ability and from an external misperception in people of high ability; that is, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others." Hence, the corollary to the Dunning–Kruger effect indicates that persons of high-ability tend to underestimate their relative competence, and erroneously presume that tasks that are easy for them to perform also are easy for other people to perform."





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  Reply # 1793595 2-Jun-2017 11:58
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To paraphrase Trump: "No one has more respect for my own intellect than I do."


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  Reply # 1793631 2-Jun-2017 12:08
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freitasm:

 

 

 

More specifically the Dunning-Kruger Effect:

 

 

 

 

I wonder if Trump is actually capable of understanding those paragraphs. I wonder if he is even capable of reading them. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1793731 2-Jun-2017 14:12
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Paul1977:

 

So, is the membership in the Paris accord something that the President can decide unilaterally?

 

 

I don't know about that, but what about other polluters like China, Russia, India, Indonesia, etc [purely guessing from pics of poor air quality, don't quote me!] - are they in this? Otherwise what's the point? 


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