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  Reply # 1666537 9-Nov-2016 14:01
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I'll stick with my guess in the other thread, 5% popular vote to Clinton, and Trump trounced. 


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  Reply # 1666538 9-Nov-2016 14:02
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Although neither candidate is appealing, if I was eligible to vote I would likely be holding my nose and casting it Trump's way.

 

The reasons are:

 

1) Under Obama's presidency, the US has been sliding down the "world's best" rankings in just about every measure...  Clinton would see a continuation of those same policies.

 

2) Almost every single female that I know has been vocally pro-Clinton, but can't point to a single policy or thing that they like about her, except that she's a she.   That just makes me want to #facepalm

 

3) The US media (particularly the NY Times & Washington Post) declared loudly and very early on that they would do everything within their power to prevent Trump from being elected.  I've also noted similar tendencies in
NZ based coverage of the campaign.  This is entirely at-odds with their stated ethos of credibility, fairness and impartiality.

 

So yeah, it would mainly be a protest vote...


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1666541 9-Nov-2016 14:05
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I hope Clinton does





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  Reply # 1666544 9-Nov-2016 14:12
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6FIEND:

 

Although neither candidate is appealing, if I was eligible to vote I would likely be holding my nose and casting it Trump's way.

 

The reasons are:

 

1) Under Obama's presidency, the US has been sliding down the "world's best" rankings in just about every measure...  Clinton would see a continuation of those same policies.

 

2) Almost every single female that I know has been vocally pro-Clinton, but can't point to a single policy or thing that they like about her, except that she's a she.   That just makes me want to #facepalm

 

3) The US media (particularly the NY Times & Washington Post) declared loudly and very early on that they would do everything within their power to prevent Trump from being elected.  I've also noted similar tendencies in
NZ based coverage of the campaign.  This is entirely at-odds with their stated ethos of credibility, fairness and impartiality.

 

So yeah, it would mainly be a protest vote...

 

 

1. That started long before Obama. He has also had to contend with a Congress that would rather see America die than him succeed.

 

2. The single thing all women and many men like about Clinton is that she is not Trump. That alone is enough to make her the better candidate.

 

3. Credibility, fairness and impartiality in the media. Gee, where would we look for that? Fox, maybe?

 

 

 

If you want to cast a protest vote, try the Libertarians.

 

 





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  Reply # 1666548 9-Nov-2016 14:18
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Different media organisations tend to have political leanings. No different in NZ either, so I don't think many are totally impartial.

I think it could come down to who wins FLorida as that looks very close.

In terms of who winning would benefit NZ more, there really is no question.

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  Reply # 1666560 9-Nov-2016 14:31
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There are a fair number of sites predicting Trump takes Florida. He has to win it to stay in the race, but there are 750 votes in it at 87% counted. Expect a recount.

 

 


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  Reply # 1666569 9-Nov-2016 14:45
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networkn:

 

There are a fair number of sites predicting Trump takes Florida. He has to win it to stay in the race, but there are 750 votes in it at 87% counted. Expect a recount.

 

 

 

He's increased his margin now, but I'd say there will be calls for a recount if it comes down to it.

 

I'm surprised by how close Texas is.


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  Reply # 1666578 9-Nov-2016 14:59
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Paul1977:

 

 

 

I'm surprised by how close Texas is.

 

 

Not really - there are many communities in Texas with majority Hispanic/Latino population, just depends on the order polling stations count and report.


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  Reply # 1666579 9-Nov-2016 15:00
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Fred99:

 

Paul1977:

 

 

 

I'm surprised by how close Texas is.

 

 

Not really - there are many communities in Texas with majority Hispanic/Latino population, just depends on the order polling stations count and report.

 

 

Yeah, the gap has widened significantly since I posted.


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  Reply # 1666580 9-Nov-2016 15:03
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Rikkitic:

 

6FIEND:

 

Although neither candidate is appealing, if I was eligible to vote I would likely be holding my nose and casting it Trump's way.

 

The reasons are:

 

1) Under Obama's presidency, the US has been sliding down the "world's best" rankings in just about every measure...  Clinton would see a continuation of those same policies.

 

2) Almost every single female that I know has been vocally pro-Clinton, but can't point to a single policy or thing that they like about her, except that she's a she.   That just makes me want to #facepalm

 

3) The US media (particularly the NY Times & Washington Post) declared loudly and very early on that they would do everything within their power to prevent Trump from being elected.  I've also noted similar tendencies in
NZ based coverage of the campaign.  This is entirely at-odds with their stated ethos of credibility, fairness and impartiality.

 

So yeah, it would mainly be a protest vote...

 

 

1. That started long before Obama. He has also had to contend with a Congress that would rather see America die than him succeed.

 

2. The single thing all women and many men like about Clinton is that she is not Trump. That alone is enough to make her the better candidate.

 

3. Credibility, fairness and impartiality in the media. Gee, where would we look for that? Fox, maybe?

 

 

 

If you want to cast a protest vote, try the Libertarians.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. blame others for failings

 

2. attack opponent

 

3. distract with a strawman argument

 

 

 

Congratulations on such a concise object lesson ...straight from the DNC playbook.


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  Reply # 1666585 9-Nov-2016 15:12
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It's looking a bit grim now, still many votes to be counted, but Trump edging ahead in Florida, North Carolina, Ohio.

 

Stock markets have reacted - started heading south on what's probably going to be worse than GFC II if Trump wins.

 

Too bad - that's only money, jobs etc.  What comes next is what worries me.


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  Reply # 1666587 9-Nov-2016 15:14
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Paul1977:

 

networkn:

 

There are a fair number of sites predicting Trump takes Florida. He has to win it to stay in the race, but there are 750 votes in it at 87% counted. Expect a recount.

 

 

 

He's increased his margin now, but I'd say there will be calls for a recount if it comes down to it.

 

I'm surprised by how close Texas is.

 

 

Where do you guys look at all the nitty gritty? GOogle page just shows a headline xx vs xx grand total





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  Reply # 1666588 9-Nov-2016 15:15
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Where do you guys look at all the nitty gritty? GOogle page just shows a headline xx vs xx grand total

 

 

 

 

Try here.





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  Reply # 1666590 9-Nov-2016 15:19
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I'm following it on CNN.

 

 





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Reply # 1666592 9-Nov-2016 15:21
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Hopefully Trump will win.  If he does it will be small margin.  I don't like either. Trump is not a nice person it seems but certainly not evil. I feel Clinton is quite evil looking at her history as Secretary of State and Clinton foundation overall.  Under Obama USA has become weak.  Under Clinton I fear we will very quickly enter world war 3.  Time will tell. So I hope Trump does win as better of the 2 candidates


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