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  Reply # 1671263 15-Nov-2016 13:03
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joker97: He said what he said to get to where he is. Means nothing to me. Did show the world what kind of person he is. But he was an open book. Or so the Americans were led to believe.

What he's going to do next, not even he knows.

 

 

 

Yes he did say what he said to get where he is.  Now that's where I have a problem, as many of those things that he said were very similar to the things that Hitler was saying, inciting xenophobic sentiment, negatively stereotyping entire classes, races and cultures, promoting economic isolationism, and promising "action" on those issues to "Make America Great Again".

 

Remove those "promises" from his campaign, and what are you left with? A tycoon playboy dirty_old_man with a gold-plated 757 and a history of not being very nice to people.

 

So I presume we do know what the people voted for?

 

Even forgetting the racist xenophobic crap, look at something a little more pragmatic and business orientated - some are heralding Trump's wealth as an indication that he's a "good businessman". He's promised to renege on a whole bunch of agreements that the US has made with other nations. If he carries through with those threats to tear up contracts, how would you feel about negotiating any future agreement with the US?  I suggest that the effect would be considerable loss of trust.  Compare that to a deal you've got with your bank for a mortgage, if they screwed up the contract and threw it on the floor even if it was their "right" to do so - would you deal with them again when you wanted a credit card or place to put a term deposit?  Or if they merely wanted to "renegotiate" the contract, then would you willingly and happily sign another contract that was changed - to help "Make The Bank Great Again"?  I expect you might - but only if a gun was held to your head.  Ooops.

 

Trump is only going to succeed if he relinquishes all of his promises, or becomes defacto fuhrer and forces the rest of the world (and his own nation) to do what he tells them to do.  That method of management is very effective when running casinos, apparently, but it's not going to work for a president trying to run a country and to maintain international relations.


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  Reply # 1671287 15-Nov-2016 13:23
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joker97: He said what he said to get to where he is. Means nothing to me. Did show the world what kind of person he is. But he was an open book. Or so the Americans were led to believe.

What he's going to do next, not even he knows.

 

 

 

Yes he did say what he said to get where he is.  Now that's where I have a problem, as many of those things that he said were very similar to the things that Hitler was saying, inciting xenophobic sentiment, negatively stereotyping entire classes, races and cultures, promoting economic isolationism, and promising "action" on those issues to "Make America Great Again".

 

Remove those "promises" from his campaign, and what are you left with? A tycoon playboy dirty_old_man with a gold-plated 757 and a history of not being very nice to people.

 

 

Correct. No one in the entire world so far has disputed that

 

 

So I presume we do know what the people voted for?

 

 

I guess we do. Just like Brexit.

 

 

Even forgetting the racist xenophobic crap, look at something a little more pragmatic and business orientated - some are heralding Trump's wealth as an indication that he's a "good businessman". He's promised to renege on a whole bunch of agreements that the US has made with other nations. If he carries through with those threats to tear up contracts, how would you feel about negotiating any future agreement with the US?  I suggest that the effect would be considerable loss of trust.  Compare that to a deal you've got with your bank for a mortgage, if they screwed up the contract and threw it on the floor even if it was their "right" to do so - would you deal with them again when you wanted a credit card or place to put a term deposit?  Or if they merely wanted to "renegotiate" the contract, then would you willingly and happily sign another contract that was changed - to help "Make The Bank Great Again"?  I expect you might - but only if a gun was held to your head.  Ooops.

 

Trump is only going to succeed if he relinquishes all of his promises, or becomes defacto fuhrer and forces the rest of the world (and his own nation) to do what he tells them to do.  That method of management is very effective when running casinos, apparently, but it's not going to work for a president trying to run a country and to maintain international relations.

 

 

You are absolutely right.

 

But your point being?





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  Reply # 1671288 15-Nov-2016 13:26
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This is mildly alarming if the worst case scenario plays out. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11748393

 

 


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networkn:

 

This is mildly alarming if the worst case scenario plays out. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11748393

 

 

 

 

 

 

Handing the biggest wolf in the pack the keys to the sheep pen?

 

What could possibly go wrong?


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  Reply # 1671294 15-Nov-2016 13:40
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networkn:

 

This is mildly alarming if the worst case scenario plays out. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11748393

 

 

For someone that promised to side with the middle man instead of the elites, you can be sure this move means all bankers, investment companies, brokers will be laughing all the way to the bank.





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  Reply # 1671314 15-Nov-2016 13:48
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networkn:

 

This is mildly alarming if the worst case scenario plays out. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11748393

 

 

For someone that promised to side with the middle man instead of the elites, you can be sure this move means all bankers, investment companies, brokers will be laughing all the way to the bank.

 

 

 

 

Until it's triggered GFC The Sequel, and they realise that Trumpy just spent all the money he could have used to bail them out again - on walls and tax cuts.

 

 


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  Reply # 1671321 15-Nov-2016 13:53
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The morons who voted for Trump (not all Trump voters, just the morons) must really be enjoying the way he is sticking it to the establishment.

 

 





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  Reply # 1671327 15-Nov-2016 14:00
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Rikkitic:

 

The morons who voted for Trump (not all Trump voters, just the morons) must really be enjoying the way he is sticking it to the establishment.

 

 

 

 

By definition, they will have no idea anyway, so they will be happy regardless. Everything bad is the fault of Obama.





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  Reply # 1671329 15-Nov-2016 14:03
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CNN is reporting that Trump has just requested security clearances for his kids. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1671393 15-Nov-2016 14:50
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Rikkitic:

 

CNN is reporting that Trump has just requested security clearances for his kids. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Requesting isn't getting, and getting requires lots of things to be passed. If they pass, they are entitled to them, and as his advisors, pretty hard to do their job without them. At the end of the day, just because they are his kids, doesn't mean they can't do their jobs well or have nefarious intentions.

 

I agree it's a LITTLE bit off, but every candidate was going to make advisor choices that half the world shook their head as a result of.

 

 


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  Reply # 1671406 15-Nov-2016 15:09
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networkn:

 

This is mildly alarming if the worst case scenario plays out. 

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11748393 

 

 

When you're head of the SEC pushing for enforcement and the new boss doesn't care.....you're not doing yourself any favour hanging around. 

 

If you can't get with the programme, you get out. Good on her for showing she won't go along to get along. 





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  Reply # 1671407 15-Nov-2016 15:10
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Can anyone explain to me the economics of Trump's five trillion dollar infrastructure project? How is he going to pay for it? Do they just print more money and make the dollar even more devalued? Do they borrow it from China while blocking imports from that country and slapping tariffs on everything? Where does that money come from when America is already carrying 20 trillion dollars of debt? Or doesn't that  mean anything any more? Is it just numbers and monopoly money?

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1671409 15-Nov-2016 15:12
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networkn:

 

Rikkitic:

 

CNN is reporting that Trump has just requested security clearances for his kids. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Requesting isn't getting, and getting requires lots of things to be passed. If they pass, they are entitled to them, and as his advisors, pretty hard to do their job without them. At the end of the day, just because they are his kids, doesn't mean they can't do their jobs well or have nefarious intentions.

 

I agree it's a LITTLE bit off, but every candidate was going to make advisor choices that half the world shook their head as a result of. 

 

 

To avoid conflict of interest his kids were to be running his business for him (or so he says). But to have his kids in the transition team and with high level security clearances severely undermines the idea of any separation to avoid conflict of interest. It just moves the conflict to the kids.

Trump doesn't appear to see that, nor do his kids.

 

When barbarians are in the halls of power....and rules go out the window.  

 

 





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