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  Reply # 1672652 17-Nov-2016 11:41
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tdgeek:

 

In fact, my opinions are summarised like this. His bark is worse than his bite, and in any case he is on a GOP leash.

 

 

Like a pit bull?  Harmless until he's not?  undecided





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  Reply # 1672655 17-Nov-2016 11:42
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tdgeek: In fact, my opinions are summarised like this. His bark is worse than his bite, and in any case he is on a GOP leash.

The president has the power to replace any office holder in the administration, and is also the military head. The president does not like the opinion of a general, the president replaces the general. Trump has a long list of endorsements to choose loyalists from, or at least someone who will do his bidding on any given day.

Replace the president? Fire the president? There is no such thing as a motion of no confidence in the American system.

Once the president is elected that's it. If the president commits a crime, ok, but you still need a 2/3 majority to convict.

I don't understand this thinking that Trump is on a Republican party leash. Feel free to explain it.

 

Sure. Can he do whatever he likes irregardless of the party? Is he?  What knowledge does he have to run the country?  What will happen if he decides to do any of his stupid promises, is the Republican party and the house and senate resigned to that? He needs advice and masses of it. he is probably no better off than any of us here swapping positions right now. IMO he is being told, led, arranged in his presidency, and apart from mpre waffle on TV, a lot wont change. If he goes alone as he did in the election, he will somehow be out before he breaks anything.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1672657 17-Nov-2016 11:45
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tdgeek:

 

In fact, my opinions are summarised like this. His bark is worse than his bite, and in any case he is on a GOP leash.

 

 

Like a pit bull?  Harmless until he's not?  undecided

 

 

Like a terrier, yap yap yap. He had power in the election, it was all about him. Reality has set in. What could happen is he fires people on s regular basis

 

that wont go along with any stupid ideas. Or could be a vote of no confidence in him, I dunno how that could play out as its new


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  Reply # 1672660 17-Nov-2016 11:54
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Rikkitic:

 

We could well be witnessing the end of the democratic era, and just not realise it yet. Or maybe not. Let us fear the worst and hope for the best.

 

 

I'm hoping that we're witnessing the change to a new democratic era, where political power is again vested in the people rather than the elite.

 

 


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  Reply # 1672666 17-Nov-2016 11:58
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Not sure what she has done to be called evil???...surely this isnt about an email server??

 

 

 

 

The email server thing doesn't make her evil. At best it makes her reckless or incompetent: the kind of reckless incompetence that, for you or me, would at the very least result in revocation of security clearance and the end of our career in handling classified information. And I do believe, also, prosecution, given that at least two hackers have already published some of the info, so although you cannot prove it, it is a dead certainty that it's all in the hands of Russia and/or China.

 

 

The Republicans  ran their own email server for the duration of Bush's term and deleted 25 million emails. The hypocrisy from them was unbelievable.


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  Reply # 1672667 17-Nov-2016 11:58
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Trump absolutely has used fascist tactics to incite perception - fear and blame - to gain support. 

 

 

I think it's wrong to label these tactics as fascist. FUD is a pretty standard tactic worldwide, and used by despots of all persuasions.

 

 


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  Reply # 1672669 17-Nov-2016 12:01
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I don't think there's any way he'll be stopped or even slowed down short of impeachment.  That's becoming more of a possibility, there probably would be the numbers in both houses if he continues on his present path.  But then, it still wouldn't be over.  He wouldn't go down without a fight - presumably that would include accusation that is was "proof" of the conspiracy theories he's been arguing, with the result that literally millions of avid supporters will run riot.


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  Reply # 1672671 17-Nov-2016 12:05
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sbiddle:

 

SaltyNZ:

 

Pumpedd:

 

Not sure what she has done to be called evil???...surely this isnt about an email server??

 

 

 

 

The email server thing doesn't make her evil. At best it makes her reckless or incompetent: the kind of reckless incompetence that, for you or me, would at the very least result in revocation of security clearance and the end of our career in handling classified information. And I do believe, also, prosecution, given that at least two hackers have already published some of the info, so although you cannot prove it, it is a dead certainty that it's all in the hands of Russia and/or China.

 

 

The Republicans  ran their own email server for the duration of Bush's term and deleted 25 million emails. The hypocrisy from them was unbelievable.

 

 

Yes I recall that after invading Iraq and destroying their infrastructure Bush gave the contract of rebuilding Iraq to his brother's company. That's just one of them ... I wonder who took all the oil ...





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  Reply # 1672682 17-Nov-2016 12:11
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Rikkitic:

 

 

 

Did good and decent Romans recognise when their way of life died? It didn’t happen at a particular moment, and it wasn’t the result of a single battle. It was a gradual process that occurred over time, the cumulative effect of many failures of society. We could well be witnessing the end of the democratic era, and just not realise it yet. Or maybe not. Let us fear the worst and hope for the best.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, like the electoral outcome or hate it, what this result shows is democracy in action. That someone like Donald Trump can be elected is an indication that democracy is not dying. However it does show that the democratic process

 

can be influenced by the media and their adrenalin fueled pontifications. 





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  Reply # 1672683 17-Nov-2016 12:15
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Fred99:

 

Trump absolutely has used fascist tactics to incite perception - fear and blame - to gain support. 

 

 

I think it's wrong to label these tactics as fascist. FUD is a pretty standard tactic worldwide, and used by despots of all persuasions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

To use blatant racism, targeting entire races and cultures, threatening to deport millions of people, to build physical walls, to revoke treaties and agreements with other nations, isolationism and strong nationalism?

 

Check to all.  Yes - he's a fascist. It's just a name, don't be afraid to use it.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1672688 17-Nov-2016 12:21
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I don't think there's any way he'll be stopped or even slowed down short of impeachment.  That's becoming more of a possibility, there probably would be the numbers in both houses if he continues on his present path.  But then, it still wouldn't be over.  He wouldn't go down without a fight - presumably that would include accusation that is was "proof" of the conspiracy theories he's been arguing, with the result that literally millions of avid supporters will run riot.

 

 

He has ceased his present path, if you refer to pre election result. Yes, there are the matters of his kids, but he's been tame. very much diluted his attitude, and his promises.

 

At the end of the day it comes down to, will he:

 

1. Run the country as he ran the election, and the GOP can only watch and hope

 

2. Run the country as a figurehead for the GOP as he has no knowledge, or experience of the outcomes from whatever he says and does. In the election there was only one outcome, votes or no votes


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  Reply # 1672721 17-Nov-2016 12:28
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My problem is if you assume the best, you won't be prepared for the worst. I would rather see the Trump presidency as the end of the world, and then hope to be pleasantly surprised. In the meantime prepare the best I can for the worst.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1672722 17-Nov-2016 12:29
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tdgeek:

 

He has ceased his present path, if you refer to pre election result. Yes, there are the matters of his kids, but he's been tame. very much diluted his attitude, and his promises.

 

 

Read again what I posted earlier. Hitler too "ceased" his rethoric when he got into the Reichstag. Once President Hinderburg gave him the Chancellor office, everything changed.





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  Reply # 1672724 17-Nov-2016 12:34
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Rikkitic:

 

 

 

Did good and decent Romans recognise when their way of life died? It didn’t happen at a particular moment, and it wasn’t the result of a single battle. It was a gradual process that occurred over time, the cumulative effect of many failures of society. We could well be witnessing the end of the democratic era, and just not realise it yet. Or maybe not. Let us fear the worst and hope for the best.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, like the electoral outcome or hate it, what this result shows is democracy in action. That someone like Donald Trump can be elected is an indication that democracy is not dying. However it does show that the democratic process

 

can be influenced by the media and their adrenalin fueled pontifications. 

 

 

What people keep pointing out about Hitler is that he stole the democratic process. It has also happened elsewhere. who is to say it couldn't be happening in this case?

 

 





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  Reply # 1672726 17-Nov-2016 12:36
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tdgeek:

 

very much diluted his attitude, and his promises.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where on earth do you get that idea?  He's only shut up his face because he no longer needs to win an election.

 

Last I heard, the wall is still very much on, he's deporting 3 million, pulling out of climate change deals etc etc.

 

He's perhaps tweaked a few things, like the 45% tariff on chinese imported goods, possibly "renegotiate" NAFTA rather than dump it.

 

What say that "renegotiation" said that the US will stay in NAFTA if Mexico pay their "fair share" of the cost of the wall?

 

You'll never guess what might happen.


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