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  Reply # 1672727 17-Nov-2016 12:37
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My problem is if you assume the best, you won't be prepared for the worst. I would rather see the Trump presidency as the end of the world, and then hope to be pleasantly surprised. In the meantime prepare the best I can for the worst.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just looking at reality.


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  Reply # 1672728 17-Nov-2016 12:41
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Rikkitic:

 

My problem is if you assume the best, you won't be prepared for the worst. I would rather see the Trump presidency as the end of the world, and then hope to be pleasantly surprised. In the meantime prepare the best I can for the worst.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just looking at reality.

 

 

 

 

Are you seeing it on Breitbart.com ?


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1672731 17-Nov-2016 12:42
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freitasm:

 

tdgeek:

 

He has ceased his present path, if you refer to pre election result. Yes, there are the matters of his kids, but he's been tame. very much diluted his attitude, and his promises.

 

 

Read again what I posted earlier. Hitler too "ceased" his rethoric when he got into the Reichstag. Once President Hinderburg gave him the Chancellor office, everything changed.

 

 

My opinion is Trump is not a ruler of the leading party, he is a leader of the ruling party. I hear your points, but Trump is just one loud brash man, amongst the ruling party, the Republicans. My opinions are based on the daily dilution of everything about him and his policies, pre election. No one knows, time will tell, but we have heard the worst from him. From time to time he will lash out for publicity purposes, but for me, he is being ruled. He is not the or a ruler. 


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  Reply # 1672734 17-Nov-2016 12:44
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tdgeek:

 

My opinions are based on the daily dilution of everything about him and his policies, pre election. 

 

 

 

 

I challenge you to produce evidence of that "dilution".

 

 


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  Reply # 1672736 17-Nov-2016 12:44
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There has been a not of nonsense thrown around about this. 

 

First of all, different places are looking at this very differently. If you read German news reports, its very dark, doom and gloomy Europe is worried about Trump's foreign policy. On the other hand there are a lot of positive reports out there.

 

I think this man is unpredictable. This may or may not prove to be a bad thing. However I do think he is reasonably intelligent, some have dismissed this. And I do think he is going to focus heavily on what is good for America. It's almost as if foreign policy has been an afterthought of his campaign. He is much more interested in changing things internally. 

 

If you want to get real information about geo politics check out George Friedman. 

 

https://geopoliticalfutures.com/

 

 

 

 






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  Reply # 1672738 17-Nov-2016 12:46
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Fred99:

 

tdgeek:

 

Rikkitic:

 

My problem is if you assume the best, you won't be prepared for the worst. I would rather see the Trump presidency as the end of the world, and then hope to be pleasantly surprised. In the meantime prepare the best I can for the worst.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just looking at reality.

 

 

 

 

Are you seeing it on Breitbart.com ?

 

 

Lol. No. I'm not getting tied up in all this over hyped Trump stuff, he is overblown. The fear and horror is also overblown IMHO. I don't buy the fear and horror that he will act and do what his election showed.


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  Reply # 1672741 17-Nov-2016 12:50
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There has been a not of nonsense thrown around about this. 

 

First of all, different places are looking at this very differently. If you read German news reports, its very dark, doom and gloomy Europe is worried about Trump's foreign policy. On the other hand there are a lot of positive reports out there.

 

I think this man is unpredictable. This may or may not prove to be a bad thing. However I do think he is reasonably intelligent, some have dismissed this. And I do think he is going to focus heavily on what is good for America. It's almost as if foreign policy has been an afterthought of his campaign. He is much more interested in changing things internally. 

 

If you want to get real information about geo politics check out George Friedman. 

 

https://geopoliticalfutures.com/

 

 

 

 

 

 

And its not Trump's foreign policy. It's the Republican foreign policy. Of all the areas that he has little, some, or a bit of knowledge, foreign policy will be last

 

I think he is being given far too much credit. The election campaign was just that. he wont be running the show single handed or single minded.


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  Reply # 1672753 17-Nov-2016 13:04
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tdgeek:

 

freitasm:

 

tdgeek:

 

He has ceased his present path, if you refer to pre election result. Yes, there are the matters of his kids, but he's been tame. very much diluted his attitude, and his promises.

 

 

Read again what I posted earlier. Hitler too "ceased" his rethoric when he got into the Reichstag. Once President Hinderburg gave him the Chancellor office, everything changed.

 

 

My opinion is Trump is not a ruler of the leading party, he is a leader of the ruling party. I hear your points, but Trump is just one loud brash man, amongst the ruling party, the Republicans. My opinions are based on the daily dilution of everything about him and his policies, pre election. No one knows, time will tell, but we have heard the worst from him. From time to time he will lash out for publicity purposes, but for me, he is being ruled. He is not the or a ruler. 

 

 

You are talking as if this "party" would be able to manage Trump. This is the same party that was horrified by Trump but when they say the glimmer of hope of winning the presidency left all their worries behind and supported him. This is the party in which Trump bad-mouthed their most senior leader and yet he went meekly to support Trump. This party is being manipulated.





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  Reply # 1672759 17-Nov-2016 13:12
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A great television series, based upon a great book, was 'The Winds of War'. It was on Jones at one point. Hopefully it will come around again. Definitely worth watching.

 

One of the threads was about an American Jewish professor in Italy who just couldn't believe things would turn out that bad, and the attempts of his family to get him out on time. I don't know that things will turn out that bad under Trump, but some people in the USA might want to keep their bags packed anyway. The point about this is if you can know it is too late before it is too late.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1672762 17-Nov-2016 13:15
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

And its not Trump's foreign policy. It's the Republican foreign policy.

 

 

 

 

That is wildly incorrect.  


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  Reply # 1672763 17-Nov-2016 13:19
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He is much more interested in changing things internally.  

 

 

Yes - regardless of human cost to people he doesn't like, internally - or human and financial cost, globally.

 

Because that's what fascists do.

 

 


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  Reply # 1672769 17-Nov-2016 13:24
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Fred99:

 

tdgeek:

 

 

 

And its not Trump's foreign policy. It's the Republican foreign policy.

 

 

 

 

That is wildly incorrect.  

 

 

Explain. Trump has no experience in politics let alone foreign policy. He does when it comes to exciting the masses


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  Reply # 1672773 17-Nov-2016 13:27
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freitasm:

 

tdgeek:

 

freitasm:

 

tdgeek:

 

He has ceased his present path, if you refer to pre election result. Yes, there are the matters of his kids, but he's been tame. very much diluted his attitude, and his promises.

 

 

Read again what I posted earlier. Hitler too "ceased" his rethoric when he got into the Reichstag. Once President Hinderburg gave him the Chancellor office, everything changed.

 

 

My opinion is Trump is not a ruler of the leading party, he is a leader of the ruling party. I hear your points, but Trump is just one loud brash man, amongst the ruling party, the Republicans. My opinions are based on the daily dilution of everything about him and his policies, pre election. No one knows, time will tell, but we have heard the worst from him. From time to time he will lash out for publicity purposes, but for me, he is being ruled. He is not the or a ruler. 

 

 

You are talking as if this "party" would be able to manage Trump. This is the same party that was horrified by Trump but when they say the glimmer of hope of winning the presidency left all their worries behind and supported him. This is the party in which Trump bad-mouthed their most senior leader and yet he went meekly to support Trump. This party is being manipulated.

 

 

With all due respect, that's an opinion, as is mine. The rest is true, he bad mouths everyone, then he says the opposite, so what he says and does has no credibility. Do they support him, or do they support the party which is bigger and better than him


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@Tdgeek

 

There is also talk of him being impeached if he is unable to be controlled. And I suspect the republicans that decide to do this will get support from the democrats reasonably easily.

 

I don't actually know if Trump wants some of the stuff that comes with "Being President".

 

This is a guy who is rich and pretty much does whatever he wants.

 

1) He cannot drive anymore. Presidents must travel with their motorcade.

 

2) He is supposed to live in the white house. Security is supposedly a nightmare otherwise.

 

3) His body language and some of his comments seem to reflect this... it was almost as if he "just wanted to win". 

 

This sounds like the alt-right has taken a hold of him. Im talking about the part of the republican party that produced people like Sarah Palin. Steve Bannon just goes to prove that. Something doesn't quite add up, this is not your traditional group of republicans comments from the likes of the Bush family goes to prove that as well.

 

 






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  Reply # 1672788 17-Nov-2016 13:48
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@Tdgeek

 

There is also talk of him being impeached if he is unable to be controlled. And I suspect the republicans that decide to do this will get support from the democrats reasonably easily.

 

I don't actually know if Trump wants some of the stuff that comes with "Being President".

 

This is a guy who is rich and pretty much does whatever he wants.

 

1) He cannot drive anymore. Presidents must travel with their motorcade.

 

2) He is supposed to live in the white house. Security is supposedly a nightmare otherwise.

 

3) His body language and some of his comments seem to reflect this... it was almost as if he "just wanted to win". 

 

This sounds like the alt-right has taken a hold of him. Im talking about the part of the republican party that produced people like Sarah Palin. Steve Bannon just goes to prove that. Something doesn't quite add up, this is not your traditional group of republicans comments from the likes of the Bush family goes to prove that as well.

 

 

 

 

I very much agree. I fully see the points raised. The range of Trump ranges from meh to horrific as far as president is concerned

 

 

 

I see his electioneering as just that. He remains a prat though. He's not stupid, and Trump Inc to president is a huge shift to a totally unrelated position. I just dont see his antics transferring to the presidency.  


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