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Reply # 1692571 20-Dec-2016 08:42
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And the state of the world just got a little more unstable: Off duty Turkish police man assassinates the Russian ambassador to Turkey.


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  Reply # 1692589 20-Dec-2016 09:21
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And the state of the world just got a little more unstable: Off duty Turkish police man assassinates the Russian ambassador to Turkey.

 

 

 

 

And whatever has just happened in Berlin.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1692591 20-Dec-2016 09:24
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Fred99:

 

DarthKermit:

 

And the state of the world just got a little more unstable: Off duty Turkish police man assassinates the Russian ambassador to Turkey.

 

 

 

 

And whatever has just happened in Berlin.

 

 

On the balance, I feel 2016 has been full of events that has made the world a less fantastic place to be in. We have lost some of our brightest stars and the world seems to be somewhat spiralling out of control. 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1692595 20-Dec-2016 09:48
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networkn:

 

Fred99:

 

DarthKermit:

 

And the state of the world just got a little more unstable: Off duty Turkish police man assassinates the Russian ambassador to Turkey.

 

 

 

 

And whatever has just happened in Berlin.

 

 

On the balance, I feel 2016 has been full of events that has made the world a less fantastic place to be in. We have lost some of our brightest stars and the world seems to be somewhat spiralling out of control. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Spiralling into control is more accurate IMO.  Into the control of so-called "strong-men".

 

If that continues, then it won't end well.


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  Reply # 1692651 20-Dec-2016 10:37
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Seems to be some kind of resentment to democracy happening and it isnt going to bode well with totally selfish men like Trump and Putin in control for their own gains.

 

Maybe it is social media that is to blame for a lot of this as it makes us believe in lies and conspiracies more than we should.

 

2016 will stick in my mind because of the worlds total lack of compassion for the people of Syria. We watch this genocide night after night brought on by Russia and Syria and yet we do nothing. The world is more concerned about the frivolous BS like what the Kardashians throw at us than thousands of people being slaughtered by butchers.


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  Reply # 1692775 20-Dec-2016 12:12
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Trump now officially elected. No surprise there, unfortunately.

 

 





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  Reply # 1693073 21-Dec-2016 08:56
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There's a wikipedia page devoted to 2016 United States election interference by Russia.

 

 

 

 

 



Mmm .. US getting a taste of their own medicine

 

Yes.

 

If you were to consider cases where the intentions may have been morally sound, then as they say - the path to ruin is paved with good intentions.

 

History however seem to show examples of interference which wasn't morally sound - but entirely self-interest for the US.

 

Trump has been arguing that the US should desist from "sorting out other nation's problem" and act in a more self-interested way, I don't think it bodes well for stability - if that suggests the US will be less responsive / sympathetic to the needs of other nations, but remains as willing to meddle in order to secure US financial interests. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1693635 22-Dec-2016 08:14
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So apparently it is official the trump fella will be the next president. I think we should spare a thought for the 50 odd percent who didn't vote for him. The shame and embarrassment that they will have to face from the world at large... My sympathies. 





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  Reply # 1693644 22-Dec-2016 08:37
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So apparently it is official the trump fella will be the next president. I think we should spare a thought for the 50 odd percent who didn't vote for him. The shame and embarrassment that they will have to face from the world at large... My sympathies. 

 

 

In every US eleection its around 50% that didnt vote for the winner. Same goes for many.


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  Reply # 1693663 22-Dec-2016 09:20
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gnfb:

 

So apparently it is official the trump fella will be the next president. I think we should spare a thought for the 50 odd percent who didn't vote for him. The shame and embarrassment that they will have to face from the world at large... My sympathies. 

 

 

In every US eleection its around 50% that didnt vote for the winner. Same goes for many.

 

 

Trump has been elected president when his opponent had about 3 million more votes than he did - he holds a record as the biggest loser to become president.

 

The next biggest loser to become president was George "W" Bush in 2000.  Perhaps evidence that the popular vote should be what matters.

 

 


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  Reply # 1693671 22-Dec-2016 09:28
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tdgeek:

 

gnfb:

 

So apparently it is official the trump fella will be the next president. I think we should spare a thought for the 50 odd percent who didn't vote for him. The shame and embarrassment that they will have to face from the world at large... My sympathies. 

 

 

In every US eleection its around 50% that didnt vote for the winner. Same goes for many.

 

 

Trump has been elected president when his opponent had about 3 million more votes than he did - he holds a record as the biggest loser to become president.

 

The next biggest loser to become president was George "W" Bush in 2000.  Perhaps evidence that the popular vote should be what matters.

 

 

 

 

Same has happened here. There are many ways to skin a cat, and while overall they would trend the same general way, there will be anomalies. They change electoral boundaries that changes the vote.

 

The popular vote as the only vote would be fair, and FAR less time consuming and costly. The ONLY vote, none of this tick this tick that, just one vote for one party. For the regions, they share the same vote percentage. Each party will still have reps everywhere, but the ability to govern is mandated to only the winning party, they can do what they want, as they have the majority. AKA democracy


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  Reply # 1693673 22-Dec-2016 09:31
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We all need to tweet Drumpf once a day to remind him that he lost the popular vote. It's obviously a sore point for him. And this isn't the first time he's tweeted this sentiment.


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  Reply # 1693694 22-Dec-2016 10:15
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Fred99:

 

tdgeek:

 

gnfb:

 

So apparently it is official the trump fella will be the next president. I think we should spare a thought for the 50 odd percent who didn't vote for him. The shame and embarrassment that they will have to face from the world at large... My sympathies. 

 

 

In every US eleection its around 50% that didnt vote for the winner. Same goes for many.

 

 

Trump has been elected president when his opponent had about 3 million more votes than he did - he holds a record as the biggest loser to become president.

 

The next biggest loser to become president was George "W" Bush in 2000.  Perhaps evidence that the popular vote should be what matters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

He won in accordance to the rules therefore he is not a loser.





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  Reply # 1693704 22-Dec-2016 10:40
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MikeB4:

 

Fred99:

 

tdgeek:

 

gnfb:

 

So apparently it is official the trump fella will be the next president. I think we should spare a thought for the 50 odd percent who didn't vote for him. The shame and embarrassment that they will have to face from the world at large... My sympathies. 

 

 

In every US eleection its around 50% that didnt vote for the winner. Same goes for many.

 

 

Trump has been elected president when his opponent had about 3 million more votes than he did - he holds a record as the biggest loser to become president.

 

The next biggest loser to become president was George "W" Bush in 2000.  Perhaps evidence that the popular vote should be what matters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

He won in accordance to the rules therefore he is not a loser.

 

 

Yup, the rules which allow 4% of the US voters control 8% of the electoral college votes.

 

Sometimes you surprise me with your responses - they seem conservative in terms of "well that's the way it works - so we should just accept it".

 

If that was the way the world should work, then we'd have been at risk of being slaves to a class of wealthy overlords, and expected to be loyal to them to the extent we'd fight to the death to support them in their squabbles between themselves.  Oh wait...

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1693708 22-Dec-2016 10:43
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The popular vote as the only vote would be fair, 

 

 

Fair for whom? And what is your definition of "fair"?

 

The US Presidential voting scheme has been deliberately set up to ensure that the states retain a measure of power, particularly that the smaller states wouldn't be swamped by the populous ones. At the time, that was thought to be "fair".

 

What's really needed is an explicit definition of who the President is supposed to represent; people or states. Not that it will actually make much difference; currently the President doesn't represent either of those; he represents wealth and power.

 

 


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