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  Reply # 1695319 27-Dec-2016 07:11
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This has got way too personal, references and taunts regarding my medical condition are offensive and uncalled for. I am out




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  Reply # 1695331 27-Dec-2016 09:18
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blakamin:

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure even the GOP aren't fans of the KKK 

 

 

 

 

Yup - that's right.  Being associated with the KKK would be very bad for the public image.

 

Trump is a bigot and "birther" - but ultimately he's a marketing man.

 

ajobbins:

 

He's also 70 years old and exhibiting signs of dementia

 

 

I don't think so.  He's been a public figure, there's a record of his behaviour and comments going back a few decades.  If you were looking to diagnose, then you'd be looking for signs of behavioral change and cognitive decay.  Thing is that he's been consistent.  Consistently misogynistic, narcissistic, untruthful and sociopathic - for decades.

 

 

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1695337 27-Dec-2016 10:17
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The word that describes and sums up the entire thread

Post-truth




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  Reply # 1695346 27-Dec-2016 10:32
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Immigration to New Zealand from America and Britain has skyrocketed in the wake of Trump and Brexit. According to RNZ, visits to the immigration website have jumped 2500% since the American election. 

 

Personally, I belong to the camp that sees Trump as a fool who got lucky. I don't think he is particularly bright or clever. At any other time in history, I think he would have disappeared in the primaries. He is vain, ignorant and easy to manipulate. This will be a good thing if those with influence over him have more common sense than he does and keep him from going completely off the rails. It will be bad if they decide instead to abuse their positions.

 

 





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  Reply # 1695352 27-Dec-2016 10:47
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Too much credibility given to Trumps power. GOP will run the show, he will show himself up often. Backtrack as he has done, make a fool of himself. All this talk of WW3 is silly. He doesn't have the power that past dictators had, he has no political knowledge or will. The world isn't scared, they are all gathered in the corner giggling. As he says his stupid stuff, to the enemies, non friends, and friends that p$ss them off, the US credibility will continue to drop, ideal excuse for countries to back away, Trump is a great excuse. For US influence in this world, he is a ticking time bomb, figuratively, and he will not make America Great Again, he will make America less and less important. I imagine a few countries will be ok with that.

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  Reply # 1695353 27-Dec-2016 10:51
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Rikkitic:

 

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Personally, I belong to the camp that sees Trump as a fool who got lucky. I don't think he is particularly bright or clever.

 

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Donald likes to remind us how clever and modest he is ...

 





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  Reply # 1695354 27-Dec-2016 10:53
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Sideface:

 

Rikkitic:

 

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Personally, I belong to the camp that sees Trump as a fool who got lucky. I don't think he is particularly bright or clever.

 

<snip>

 

 

Donald likes to remind us how clever and modest he is ...

 

 

 

That tweet must have marked the beginning of the post-truth era

 

Although he is going to say something like people using big words and definitions to confuse him and his supporters





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  Reply # 1695355 27-Dec-2016 11:00
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Supporters? They are history, not needed. Neither are the non supporters. Tweets like that make the world laugh. He and this's the US will be managed by the rest of the world, those first world countries with influence. It will be senior students running round chasing the loud mouthed junior student away. Moving him in the direction they want, by manipulating his inexperience and mouth before brain issues. The GOP can internally manage him, but they have no influence over the population that matters, the other 7 billion of us

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  Reply # 1695640 28-Dec-2016 09:06
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If Trump's twitter feed is an example, I don't think "the GOP" has got much chance of taming Trump.
Un-presidential, unfactual nonsense being spurted out on a regular basis.
I'm very biased, as I think he's basically evil and dangerous, but replies to his tweets are almost entirely negative and condemning, the best that his supporters seem to be able to come up with are inane memes featuring "liberal tears".  Arguments claiming that he's not lying are thoroughly flamed by facts.

 

His dirty filthy lying tactics using Twitter clearly worked during his campaign, but I doubt they are working now. He's coming across as a petulant immature brat.


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  Reply # 1695702 28-Dec-2016 10:48
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Memo to the Grim Reaper: can you please add a certain someone to your to do list for 2016? Many thanks.


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  Reply # 1695708 28-Dec-2016 10:59
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If Trump's twitter feed is an example, I don't think "the GOP" has got much chance of taming Trump.
Un-presidential, unfactual nonsense being spurted out on a regular basis.
I'm very biased, as I think he's basically evil and dangerous, but replies to his tweets are almost entirely negative and condemning, the best that his supporters seem to be able to come up with are inane memes featuring "liberal tears".  Arguments claiming that he's not lying are thoroughly flamed by facts.

 

His dirty filthy lying tactics using Twitter clearly worked during his campaign, but I doubt they are working now. He's coming across as a petulant immature brat.

 

 

He is, yes. But he is not a leader, he can't lead the US. His advisors have to, he is the utterer of what the advisors and the GOP advise. He can spout tax cuts, talk is easy, giving them is a way other matter, thats just one example of many. I just cannot see him being any more than an ineffectual President, who rattles the cages of his friends and foes overseas, thereby distancing the US from the world, all to the detriment of the US. I consider him harmless to be honest, a laughing stock to the rest of the world. It may be that if the other countries reduce dependence on the US, trade together more, maybe the "world will be great again", in as far as trade and relations go


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  Reply # 1696024 29-Dec-2016 07:34
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I think ol' Donald is going to surprise a lot of people.  Yeah, he's quite arrogant but, he's also connected to a lot of people.  The US is already seeing the market economy better than it's been in the last 8 years.  I just hope that trend continues.  There's not doubt he will fix a lot of things but at the same time, he'll also piss off a lot of people doing it. 

 

The thing that got me was all the "mud-slinging" that took place against the backdrop of fake news.  The media made all manner of predictions and upset a large segment of the population.  Actually, they did quite well in dividing the country.  Honestly, I don't think there was anything that one side didn't attack the other with.

 

The latest fad is for people to go on and on about the popular vote but, they fail to understand what it actually means.  The electoral college was established to prevent a single state (or region) from becoming the seat of power over the whole of the country.  Just imagine if population density was the deciding factor in New Zealand.  All one would need to do is campaign heavily in Auckland and the poor folks in Dunedin would just have to suck up the outcome of the election.  There wouldn't really even be a need to go down there and talk to them.

 

Ok, ok... lecture mode off but... I figured Trump to win sometime back around September.  Hillary maybe be have been a poor candidate but, Obama blew her chances out of the water.

 

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  Reply # 1696033 29-Dec-2016 08:24
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Time will tell

 

He was who the Americans chose as their next Presdident

 

Can't have democracy and then not want it





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  Reply # 1696036 29-Dec-2016 08:31
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I think ol' Donald is going to surprise a lot of people.  Yeah, he's quite arrogant but, he's also connected to a lot of people.  The US is already seeing the market economy better than it's been in the last 8 years.  I just hope that trend continues.  There's not doubt he will fix a lot of things but at the same time, he'll also piss off a lot of people doing it. 

 

The thing that got me was all the "mud-slinging" that took place against the backdrop of fake news.  The media made all manner of predictions and upset a large segment of the population.  Actually, they did quite well in dividing the country.  Honestly, I don't think there was anything that one side didn't attack the other with.

 

The latest fad is for people to go on and on about the popular vote but, they fail to understand what it actually means.  The electoral college was established to prevent a single state (or region) from becoming the seat of power over the whole of the country.  Just imagine if population density was the deciding factor in New Zealand.  All one would need to do is campaign heavily in Auckland and the poor folks in Dunedin would just have to suck up the outcome of the election.  There wouldn't really even be a need to go down there and talk to them.

 

Ok, ok... lecture mode off but... I figured Trump to win sometime back around September.  Hillary maybe be have been a poor candidate but, Obama blew her chances out of the water.

 

Peace!

 

 

 

 

Being connected in business won't help running a country. He has no idea on that topic. Thus, he won't have ideas or goals, as he just doesnt know. Whatever positive things he may do, the GOP will be behind that. Whatever negative things happen, that will be his mouth operating before his brain. I dont feel other nations take him seriously, it remains to be seen whether on the international front, if he sticks with the scripted comments from GOP or he messes up and says his own comments, and slowly isolates the US


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  Reply # 1696038 29-Dec-2016 08:34
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Time will tell

 

He was who the Americans chose as their next Presdident

 

Can't have democracy and then not want it

 

 

 

 

Actually, they didn't.

 

The Electoral College chose Trump as the President.

 

Americans don't vote directly for president.

 

They only get to express a preference.

 

The overall preference was for Hillary (by 2-3 million).


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