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  Reply # 1666687 9-Nov-2016 16:48
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joker97:
MikeAqua:

 

Is any expert making an outright prediction at this stage?

 

 

 

(no disrespect GZrs.)

 



The whole map is painted red. And I can count. Trump.

 

It is a bit misleading when looking at a map, as some of those states have large amounts of land, but small populations. You get the same thing in NZ with the electoral map. So it will be a lot closer than the map shows.


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  Reply # 1666688 9-Nov-2016 16:48
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MikeAqua:

 

Is any expert making an outright prediction at this stage?

 

(no disrespect GZrs.)

 

 

The experts have been wrong at nearly every turn up to this point.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1666690 9-Nov-2016 16:49
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mattwnz:

joker97:
MikeAqua:


Is any expert making an outright prediction at this stage?


 


(no disrespect GZrs.)




The whole map is painted red. And I can count. Trump.


It is a bit misleading when looking at a map, as some of those states have large amounts of land, but small populations. You get the same thing in NZ with the electoral map. So it will be a lot closer than the map shows.



I can also count.




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  Reply # 1666691 9-Nov-2016 16:50
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I am beginning to think Trump with a reasonable lead. I wonder if he will still claim the election is rigged




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  Reply # 1666692 9-Nov-2016 16:50
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Trumps lead is increasing in Wisconsin and Michigan. I think Clinton would need a miracle for this to turn around.


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  Reply # 1666695 9-Nov-2016 16:51
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MikeB4: I am beginning to think Trump with a reasonable lead. I wonder if he will still claim the election is rigged

 

Yes, he'll just claim that he is so great that even a rigged system can't beat him.


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  Reply # 1666696 9-Nov-2016 16:52
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joker97:
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I don't think many will do that until it is a lot closer to the final count, as often they can make a mistake.

 

 

 

But it looks like the republicans will in senate, so even if Clinton does win, will she be a lame duck president?

 

 

 

 

 



When you look at the numbers, Trump needs 100 to win. Clinton needs 150 to win. We are past halfway. Suddenly the second half of votes all Hp to Clinton? No. Americans have spoken. They don't want Clinton. They chose trump.

 

It doesn't really work like that. If you were using that logic, Clinton would be projected to win initially as she at one stage had more states.

 

Although Clinton looks to have the popular vote at the moment, which I presume more people voted for her, but the way FPP works, those votes mean nothing, if the other person wins. CBS still says it is a toss up who will win. But after the Gore Bush election, they probably don't want to say .


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  Reply # 1666698 9-Nov-2016 16:53
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Just for comparision, go back and look at the results for 2012 when Obama won. 

 

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/map/#/President/2012/

 

The colours there look pretty much the same (so far) as the ones on the current results map at http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president

 

Ohio is the only blue one there that has turned red.  The rest are still either pending or no results.  You can probably expect the Western States to stay democrat. 

 

No, I don't know enough to call this one way or another. 

 

Just saying that just because is a mass of red on the map so far isn't enough proof

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1666699 9-Nov-2016 16:55
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Clinton will get California, which 55 electoral votes. This will bring the totals a lot closer, but it won't be enough.


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  Reply # 1666701 9-Nov-2016 16:55
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Paul1977:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Is any expert making an outright prediction at this stage?

 

(no disrespect GZrs.)

 

 

The experts have been wrong at nearly every turn up to this point.

 

 

On that basis whatever they say will be  inversely predictive.  Like in Ogg by Bob Jones.





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  Reply # 1666703 9-Nov-2016 16:58
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evnafets:

 

Just for comparision, go back and look at the results for 2012 when Obama won. 

 

 

 

Ohio is the only blue one there that has turned red.  The rest are still either pending or no results.  You can probably expect the Western States to stay democrat. 

 

No, I don't know enough to call this one way or another. 

 

Just saying that just because is a mass of red on the map so far isn't enough proof

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting maps. Shows she has now lost  Florida which is a big difference.


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You know what this means right, Winston Peters will be our next PM. Unless Kim dotcom runs again, then it could be close.




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  Reply # 1666707 9-Nov-2016 17:01
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joker97: You know what this means right, Winston Peters will be our next PM. Unless Kim dotcom runs again, then it could be close.

 

 

 

Despite being neither, Winston is a scholar and gentleman compared to Trump. 


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  Reply # 1666708 9-Nov-2016 17:02
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joker97: You know what this means right, Winston Peters will be our next PM. Unless Kim dotcom runs again, then it could be close.


No no no no no
No
No no no no

Ah hell no

No

No




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  Reply # 1666710 9-Nov-2016 17:02
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If Trump holds the leads in Wisconsin, Michigan, and North Carolina; then I think that will give him the needed 270 votes. If two of them swung to Clinton, and she wins pretty much all the western states that haven't released any results yet then she could still get it.

 

The longer it goes on the less likely it seems that America will be celebrating it's first female president any time soon.


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