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  Reply # 1682791 5-Dec-2016 18:31
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since when are there polls on geekzone.





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  Reply # 1682856 5-Dec-2016 19:31
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Lol. I go for Judith Collins.




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  Reply # 1682860 5-Dec-2016 19:44
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joker97: Lol. I go for Judith Collins.


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  Reply # 1682864 5-Dec-2016 19:49
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Judith Collins doesnt seem to be an honest person like Key...she is a bit self serving. I wouldnt vote National if she was leader..or Bennett for that matter.


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  Reply # 1682868 5-Dec-2016 20:01
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Pumpedd:

 

Judith Collins doesnt seem to be an honest person like Key...she is a bit self serving. I wouldnt vote National if she was leader..or Bennett for that matter.

 

 

I agree that Collins isn't as honest as Key, but at the end of the day, policies are set by parties and I care more about policies than people. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1682869 5-Dec-2016 20:03
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MikeB4: Richie McCaw for PM

 

 

 

Would destroy him. I wouldn't wish that upon someone I like. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1682871 5-Dec-2016 20:03
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joker97: Lol. I go for Judith Collins.


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Pretty gutted really. While he hasn't done anything remarkable, after the GFC we needed strong economic management, which National has delivered, imo. He's also done a great job raising our profile on the intl stage, he's quite renowned in political circles. He also comes across as a decent guy you could have a beer with, he doesn't take himself too seriously and that's part of his appeal. I think he has been a very good leader and I am a bit nervous about the next few years now. The last 8 years of a national government has coincided with my most successful years in life and while I don't think that is because of National, they have created an environment in which many people have thrived. I'll miss him.


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  Reply # 1682968 5-Dec-2016 21:17
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It was a surprising bit of news. Pretty much "broke the internet" for a while there - couldn't get to any news sites without "the server is busy" messages.

 

English will be the next PM. Normally when someone steps down they let the succession take its course, but Key coming out strongly on English's side will all but guarantee him the role. 

 

With English and Little leading the two major parties it seems like we're in for a pretty dull ride. There's not much charisma on either side. Of course, if the polls don't look good for National closing in on the election I expect the knives to come out. I can see Collins wanting the job and that could get pretty interesting.


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  Reply # 1682978 5-Dec-2016 21:53
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Does no-one else see this as his parting gift to the national voters?

 

 

 

Knock down the int. rate of the NZ$ without changing the interest rate? No problem, have the PM resign unexpectedly!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(sour grapes that he does it RIGHT before my international holiday know.... but still!)


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It was a surprising bit of news. Pretty much "broke the internet" for a while there - couldn't get to any news sites without "the server is busy" messages.

 

English will be the next PM. Normally when someone steps down they let the succession take its course, but Key coming out strongly on English's side will all but guarantee him the role. 

 

With English and Little leading the two major parties it seems like we're in for a pretty dull ride. There's not much charisma on either side. Of course, if the polls don't look good for National closing in on the election I expect the knives to come out. I can see Collins wanting the job and that could get pretty interesting.

 

 

I agree. A transition to English would be very easy. If Collins starts doing the Australian thing, canvassing supporters (I bet she is on the phone right now doing that) that will hurt National, as it will fragment the party. Labour will rush in about the Australian experience. Best she is not supported enough, and loses her place, due to not supporting English. 

 

As posted earlier, time for a change is the slogan after three terms, and three terms is often the duration of a party that has been successful, they lose that edge, the public thinks they are too slow and stable. They expect a new Govt to right things. NZ is too small to manage our destiny in many areas


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Pretty gutted really. While he hasn't done anything remarkable, after the GFC we needed strong economic management, which National has delivered, imo. He's also done a great job raising our profile on the intl stage, he's quite renowned in political circles. He also comes across as a decent guy you could have a beer with, he doesn't take himself too seriously and that's part of his appeal. I think he has been a very good leader and I am a bit nervous about the next few years now. The last 8 years of a national government has coincided with my most successful years in life and while I don't think that is because of National, they have created an environment in which many people have thrived. I'll miss him.

 

 

 

 

Completely agree.

 

We have been very lucky to have a man at the helm who actually has worked in the real world, not just worked his way up through student politics (can't ever hear that without thinking of Rick from The Young Ones..)and a variety of political sinecures.

 

After Margaret Thatcher, he is probably the best leader I have lived under.






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  Reply # 1682997 5-Dec-2016 23:57
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"John Key is resigning as Prime Minister of New Zealand. Key made the announcement at his weekly press conference this afternoon." Effective 12 December.

 

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11760656

 

 

 

Thoughts? I didn't see that coming!

 

 

There's been talk for while that he wasn't enjoying the job much anymore. But that's no help in setting a date. :)  





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mattwnz: I was thinking A few months ago, that if he was going to resign , now would be the time to do it, as it gives the new leader, most likely English, a lot of time to regroup the party for the election. The thing is that he needed to resign for a lot of changes to be made, as he did promise that things such as retirement age wouldn't be changed under his leadership. I guess those sorts of things are now open. Ther is also now a lot more pressure on him, over things like the property bubble and unaffordable house prices, th growing gap between the rich and working class etc. IMO he has done a valid job, and it is probably one of the worst and thankless jobs in NZ in a lot of ways. But also very rewarding too. But it was time to go because there are a lot of changes that need to be done, as the current system in NZ is not working. Housing is the number one problem in NZ, and it needs changes to the amount of immigrants we are letting in, stopping overseas people buying housing stock, creating competition in the building materials market to name but a few.

 

Another view is that 2010 tax cuts exploded the debt and so they gutted the public service so it's hard to get any service....and dismantling Housing NZ as a housing crisis develops wasn't clever....and they still aren't doing anything useful about climate change even as 2016's global temperatures go off the charts. It's all been a cock-up right from the start, really. 

But I know many people don't like to deal in the long list of very specific policy failures (by the dozen) and prefer instead to think of how they feel about things. 

They liked John Key even as his government stumbled from one mess to the next...most of their their own creation (earthquakes obviously not included). 

 

I don't have anything bad to say about him that doesn't apply equally to every other government MP.  





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MikeB4: Richie McCaw for PM

 

 

 

Would destroy him. I wouldn't wish that upon someone I like. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus, and I think kiwis often need reminding, he's a guy who made a living running around holding a ball and knocking people over. I'm sure he's a nice guy - and he can fly a helicopter, hurray! - but playing rugby is just a liiiiiitle bit different to running a country.

 

As for Key - he did a good job with the economy, but I would never vote for someone who supports as much privacy invading bulk surveillance as he does. Not to mention supporting sending in military-armed, helicopter-mounted police to arrest a man who would have trouble outrunning an armchair, whose alleged crime was making it slightly easier for other people to share copied DVDs.





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