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Topic # 220370 8-Aug-2017 12:55
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I think she's good so far. Out there, real, looks to be a mover and shaker. Not wishy washy. Kicked Turei to touch, tick. Not using the Barclay scandal as an election tool, tick.

 

Any party HAS to have a good leader, so far she seems to be one.


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  Reply # 1841072 8-Aug-2017 13:03
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She has certainly made a promising beginning, but she has a long way to go. Time will tell. It is too early to pass judgment yet.

 

 





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  Reply # 1841092 8-Aug-2017 13:25
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Given the personality of the recent leadership, anything is an improvement. I doubt she'll get labour across the line this time, but in 3 years time, totally different kettle of fish


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1841109 8-Aug-2017 13:41
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Too early to tell but she has made a reasonable start. The election in general is a soap opera at the moment.





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  Reply # 1841206 8-Aug-2017 15:18
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Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.






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  Reply # 1841246 8-Aug-2017 15:56
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Geektastic:

 

Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.

 

 

It's all right. Your children won't mind.

 

 





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  Reply # 1841259 8-Aug-2017 16:10
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Rikkitic:

 

Geektastic:

 

Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.

 

 

It's all right. Your children won't mind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

They certainly won't. That does not really affect my answer though.






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  Reply # 1841262 8-Aug-2017 16:16
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So far so good. She is making National look old and withered!!

 

I would vote for her, but it depends what happens with the Greens fiasco. IMO Labour should ditch their agreement with the Greens NOW.




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  Reply # 1841288 8-Aug-2017 16:37
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Geektastic:

 

Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.

 

 

She is far more qualified than most MP's I'd suggest, and 

 

She attended the University of Waikato, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications. She joined the Labour Party at a young age, and became a senior figure in the Young Labour branch of the party. After graduating from Waikato University, she spent time working in the offices of Phil Goffand of Helen Clark as a researcher. She later spent time in London, working as a senior policy advisor to Tony Blair.[5] In early 2008 she won election as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth. After a high placement on Labour's party list for the 2008 election (her ranking at number 20 virtually guaranteed a seat in Parliament) Ardern returned from London to campaign full-time. She also became the Party's candidate for the Waikato electorate.




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  Reply # 1841289 8-Aug-2017 16:38
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Pumpedd:

 

So far so good. She is making National look old and withered!!

 

I would vote for her, but it depends what happens with the Greens fiasco. IMO Labour should ditch their agreement with the Greens NOW.

 

 

They need the Greens. But Turei will not feature should Labour win. 


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tdgeek:

 

Geektastic:

 

Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.

 

 

She is far more qualified than most MP's I'd suggest, and 

 

She attended the University of Waikato, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications. She joined the Labour Party at a young age, and became a senior figure in the Young Labour branch of the party. After graduating from Waikato University, she spent time working in the offices of Phil Goffand of Helen Clark as a researcher. She later spent time in London, working as a senior policy advisor to Tony Blair.[5] In early 2008 she won election as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth. After a high placement on Labour's party list for the 2008 election (her ranking at number 20 virtually guaranteed a seat in Parliament) Ardern returned from London to campaign full-time. She also became the Party's candidate for the Waikato electorate.

 

 

 

 

So, precisely no real world economic or business experience at all then?

 

 

 

Just many years spent in a socialist echo chamber?






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  Reply # 1841302 8-Aug-2017 16:56
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Geektastic:

 

tdgeek:

 

Geektastic:

 

Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.

 

 

She is far more qualified than most MP's I'd suggest, and 

 

She attended the University of Waikato, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications. She joined the Labour Party at a young age, and became a senior figure in the Young Labour branch of the party. After graduating from Waikato University, she spent time working in the offices of Phil Goffand of Helen Clark as a researcher. She later spent time in London, working as a senior policy advisor to Tony Blair.[5] In early 2008 she won election as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth. After a high placement on Labour's party list for the 2008 election (her ranking at number 20 virtually guaranteed a seat in Parliament) Ardern returned from London to campaign full-time. She also became the Party's candidate for the Waikato electorate.

 

 

 

 

So, precisely no real world economic or business experience at all then?

 

 

 

Just many years spent in a socialist echo chamber?

 

 

 

 

To be a Leader she does not need it, that is what she has a Finance Minister for and other Ministers. She also has a stack of advisors and Department heads etc  





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Geektastic:

 

tdgeek:

 

Geektastic:

 

Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.

 

 

She is far more qualified than most MP's I'd suggest, and 

 

She attended the University of Waikato, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications. She joined the Labour Party at a young age, and became a senior figure in the Young Labour branch of the party. After graduating from Waikato University, she spent time working in the offices of Phil Goffand of Helen Clark as a researcher. She later spent time in London, working as a senior policy advisor to Tony Blair.[5] In early 2008 she won election as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth. After a high placement on Labour's party list for the 2008 election (her ranking at number 20 virtually guaranteed a seat in Parliament) Ardern returned from London to campaign full-time. She also became the Party's candidate for the Waikato electorate.

 

 

 

 

So, precisely no real world economic or business experience at all then?

 

 

 

Just many years spent in a socialist echo chamber?

 

 

You mean as in Forex trading to make millions, which is very relevant for a PM? No. 

 

Unlike many politicians, she has political experience and knowledge. She looks like a good leader. Underneath the clear lack of any experience for most Ministry holders, they have the Ministry experts to guide and assist. Thats why you dont need  19 degrees across everything to be an MP. You lead with the professionals in the Ministries. But you already know all this.




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  Reply # 1841312 8-Aug-2017 17:03
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MikeB4:

 

Geektastic:

 

tdgeek:

 

Geektastic:

 

Too soon to tell but in my view she has inadequate experience to lead a nation at this time.

 

 

She is far more qualified than most MP's I'd suggest, and 

 

She attended the University of Waikato, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications. She joined the Labour Party at a young age, and became a senior figure in the Young Labour branch of the party. After graduating from Waikato University, she spent time working in the offices of Phil Goffand of Helen Clark as a researcher. She later spent time in London, working as a senior policy advisor to Tony Blair.[5] In early 2008 she won election as the President of the International Union of Socialist Youth. After a high placement on Labour's party list for the 2008 election (her ranking at number 20 virtually guaranteed a seat in Parliament) Ardern returned from London to campaign full-time. She also became the Party's candidate for the Waikato electorate.

 

 

 

 

So, precisely no real world economic or business experience at all then?

 

 

 

Just many years spent in a socialist echo chamber?

 

 

 

 

To be a Leader she does not need it, that is what she has a Finance Minister for and other Ministers. She also has a stack of advisors and Department heads etc  

 

 

You beat me to it. Think of all the Minsters of Finance, how many of them were riddled with global and domestic Govt finance qualifications? probably none. As you say, they have plenty if professional skill running those ships. Its about leadership and management. 




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I thought I'd give my opinions of the effect of JA on the upcoming election.

 

Labs and the Greens typically swap numbers in polls, so I see no effect there.

 

I expect a lower move from swing voters to National from Labour. The Labour demographic is more affected by housing affordability and rent increases, so I see a lower trend for swings red to blue

 

Swings blue to red could be on the improve given Labour has a proper leader for a change. Maybe more so from the fringe parties. But anyone disenchanted with house prices and rents, may want a new approach.

 

Peters seems to be polling well, he may see this as his last chance, so may try to hammer his campaign. 

 

Maori Party will go to Labour if that opportunity is there

 

Overall I feel JA will greatly enhance the credibility of Labour, and I feel she may be top dog in any public televised debates

 

Greens? In disarray. They should have gotten rid of Turei and rejuvenate their party, but they seem to be polling well, but any swing from them would go to red, and fringe parties

 

Its hard to see Peters not being the kingmaker IMHO, he has 13%, thats a lot. Labour 24%, Greens was it 20%?  


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Of course, whatever happens in the election, she may possibly be deposed as a leader shortly thereafter.  She's not a Union person and she has to be re-confirmed under the Labour party rules

 

She is certainly a great relief after the recent leaders and their relentless negativity


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