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  Reply # 1850063 21-Aug-2017 22:57
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What did you think of his recent suggestion to tunnel under johnsonville to bypass Ngauranga gorge? I noticed he didn't have any credible ideas for the election but pulled that one out of nowhere.

 

 


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  Reply # 1850240 22-Aug-2017 11:44
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The quote below is another part of the reason I just don't like Dunne. He comes across to me as vain and superficial, as well as self-serving. He doesn't talk about what is important to his electorate, or the country, or even his party. Instead, it is all about his 'dignity' and image. According to the RNZ article that this quote comes from, apparently his deputy leader didn't even know about his decision in advance. I guess he was too busy feeling sorry for himself to be bothered to inform her. 

 

Different people have different opinions about him. Several disagree with my opinion. But it isn't something I just made up because I don't like his hair. I formed it over time for a reason. 

 

"After 30-odd years you want to retain your dignity, you want to have your head held high and you want to leave on a positive note. I came to the conclusion that was far more appropriate than fighting an election campaign and then having to make that awful concession speech on election night if it didn't turn out."

 

 





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  Reply # 1850243 22-Aug-2017 11:52
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I have talked to Mr Dunne several times over the years and he does not come off like that.





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  Reply # 1850248 22-Aug-2017 12:01
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Of course my opinion can be wrong. I am just pointing out that I formed it for a reason, based on his actions and statements over the past few years.

 

  





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  Reply # 1850249 22-Aug-2017 12:01
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Rikkitic:

 

The quote below is another part of the reason I just don't like Dunne. He comes across to me as vain and superficial, as well as self-serving. He doesn't talk about what is important to his electorate, or the country, or even his party. Instead, it is all about his 'dignity' and image. According to the RNZ article that this quote comes from, apparently his deputy leader didn't even know about his decision in advance. I guess he was too busy feeling sorry for himself to be bothered to inform her. 

 

Different people have different opinions about him. Several disagree with my opinion. But it isn't something I just made up because I don't like his hair. I formed it over time for a reason. 

 

"After 30-odd years you want to retain your dignity, you want to have your head held high and you want to leave on a positive note. I came to the conclusion that was far more appropriate than fighting an election campaign and then having to make that awful concession speech on election night if it didn't turn out."

 

 

 

 

I don't believe his comments reflect the accusations you have made. You are projecting because you "don't like him". 

 

You say things like "I don't like sticking the boot in" but in my experience, you absolutely LOVE putting the boot in. Your glee is palpable but your reasoning has been exposed by many of us with a more balanced view. 

 

Have you ever spent any time with the man? Have you looked into his accomplishments? Have you talked to anyone who has been helped or otherwise, by him?

 

 


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  Reply # 1850256 22-Aug-2017 12:24
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Nope. Just like most New Zealand voters, my political opinions are formed by what I see reported in different media. Maybe they are all engaged in some vast conspiracy to deceive us about the true nature of our politicians, who are nothing at all like they are portrayed.

 

 





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  Reply # 1850298 22-Aug-2017 12:53
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Rikkitic:

 

Nope. Just like most New Zealand voters, my political opinions are formed by what I see reported in different media. Maybe they are all engaged in some vast conspiracy to deceive us about the true nature of our politicians, who are nothing at all like they are portrayed.

 

 

 

Seems to be a pretty good decent guy to me.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dunne 

 

 

 

Dunne strongly supported the decriminalisation of homosexuality when it became an issue in the mid 1980s, and has consistently favoured more liberal drinking laws. In a 2008 interview, he suggested it may be time to review New Zealand's abortion laws and leave the decision to a woman and her doctor, based on informed consent.[18]

 

Since 2007, Dunne has rebranded United Future as a modern centre party, based on promoting strong families and vibrant communities. He wants United Future to become New Zealand's version of Britain's Liberal Democrats. Dunne has summarised his political views in two books, Home is Where My Heart Is (2002) and In the Centre of Things (2005).

 

In 2010, Dunne, as Minister of Revenue he introduced the Taxation (Income-sharing Tax Credit) Bill to Parliament in September 2010, to give effect to United Future's policy of allowing couples raising dependent children up to the age of 18 years to share their incomes for tax purposes. The Bill was referred to a select committee and was reported back to Parliament in March 2011, and is currently awaiting its second reading. In April 2011, the government announced the establishment of a statutory Game Animal Council, another United Future initiative agreed to as part of the 2008 confidence and supply agreement.

 

Dunne has long argued for reform of the superannuation system, proposing a flexible system where people could retire earlier and receive less, or later and receive more.[19]


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  Reply # 1850301 22-Aug-2017 12:56
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He was also involved in setting up of FENZ, a very important part of our rural fire fighting efforts. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1850302 22-Aug-2017 13:01
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Rikkitic:

 

The quote below is another part of the reason I just don't like Dunne. He comes across to me as vain and superficial, as well as self-serving. He doesn't talk about what is important to his electorate, or the country, or even his party. Instead, it is all about his 'dignity' and image. According to the RNZ article that this quote comes from, apparently his deputy leader didn't even know about his decision in advance. I guess he was too busy feeling sorry for himself to be bothered to inform her. 

 

Different people have different opinions about him. Several disagree with my opinion. But it isn't something I just made up because I don't like his hair. I formed it over time for a reason. 

 

"After 30-odd years you want to retain your dignity, you want to have your head held high and you want to leave on a positive note. I came to the conclusion that was far more appropriate than fighting an election campaign and then having to make that awful concession speech on election night if it didn't turn out."

 

 

 

 

He has certainly done a lot over the years. And nothing wrong at retiring with your head held high. There are some real self-serving politicians out there who are more deserving of that view. Metiria Turei is a fine example, and you thought she was great! That boggles my mind.


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  Reply # 1850304 22-Aug-2017 13:03
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Wiggum:

 

Rikkitic:

 

The quote below is another part of the reason I just don't like Dunne. He comes across to me as vain and superficial, as well as self-serving. He doesn't talk about what is important to his electorate, or the country, or even his party. Instead, it is all about his 'dignity' and image. According to the RNZ article that this quote comes from, apparently his deputy leader didn't even know about his decision in advance. I guess he was too busy feeling sorry for himself to be bothered to inform her. 

 

Different people have different opinions about him. Several disagree with my opinion. But it isn't something I just made up because I don't like his hair. I formed it over time for a reason. 

 

"After 30-odd years you want to retain your dignity, you want to have your head held high and you want to leave on a positive note. I came to the conclusion that was far more appropriate than fighting an election campaign and then having to make that awful concession speech on election night if it didn't turn out."

 

 

 

 

He has certainly done a lot over the years. And nothing wrong at retiring with your head held high. There are some real self-serving politicians out there who are more deserving of that view. Metiria Turei is a fine example, and you thought she was great! That boggles my mind.

 

 

 

 

Haha, that was a fantastic example. 

 

On another note PD didn't steal from the people of NZ either, lie about it and then be unapologetic.


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Rikkitic:

 

Nope. Just like most New Zealand voters, my political opinions are formed by what I see reported in different media. Maybe they are all engaged in some vast conspiracy to deceive us about the true nature of our politicians, who are nothing at all like they are portrayed.

 

 

Maybe you just buy into too much fake news. You can't believe everything you read in the news or online these days. Some of our news sites like stuff.co.nz, can certainly deceive. I don't think its a conspiracy, its just uninformed/and sometimes biased reporters not doing enough homework, and not basing their news on real facts. Writing news to get clicks.


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  Reply # 1850316 22-Aug-2017 13:12
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networkn:

 

 

 

Haha, that was a fantastic example. 

 

On another note PD didn't steal from the people of NZ either, lie about it and then be unapologetic.

 

 

Let's not drag Bill English into this.

 

As you'd expect with a centrist, I find it easy to point to things Dunne did that I strongly agree with, and others that I strongly disagree with. His lone vote prevented National from gutting the RMA after the 2014 election, but equally in 2002 his bottom line prevented Labour from decriminalizing cannabis or doing any other positive drug reform.

 

I have heard from many people that he was an extraordinarily effective electorate MP so he deserves unqualified praise for that at least.


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  Reply # 1850317 22-Aug-2017 13:18
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Stuff is the worst that's there. You can tell the direction of their bias by the writing and the photos of people they choose to post. Usually if they're against a person, they will pick the worst photo of the person they can find on the inter-webs and write an article that plays the person rather than the game. Their current blatant promotion of Jacinda and Helen Clark is cringeworthy at best...


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  Reply # 1850353 22-Aug-2017 13:52
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Metiria Turei is a fine example, and you thought she was great! That boggles my mind.

 

 

This is supposed to be a political discussion forum, where differing viewpoints are debated. It is not supposed to be a place for fake news. You seem to have a tendency to make things up and then try to pass them off as objective fact to support some point or other that you are trying to make. If you can point me to any comment of mine in which I stated or implied that I thought Metiria Turei was 'great', I will apologise and withdraw from this discussion. 

 

To the best of my recollection, the only thing I ever said or suggested about her was that I felt she should be given the benefit of the doubt and the mob howling for her blood should back off. I was merely advocating that good Kiwi virtue of a 'fair go'. When it became apparent that her deceptions went beyond simple benefit fudging, I stopped supporting her and I said so, but I still did not endorse the hysterical calls to grind her into the dust and humiliate her in every possible way and I did not share the sentiments of some that her transgressions should be a reason to condemn the entire Green party. But I never thought she was 'great' and I never said that, so if you are going to paraphrase me, at least try to do it correctly.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1850356 22-Aug-2017 13:56
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Rikkitic:

 

 

 

This is supposed to be a political discussion forum, where differing viewpoints are debated. It is not supposed to be a place for fake news. You seem to have a tendency to make things up and then try to pass them off as objective fact to support some point or other that you are trying to make. If you can point me to any comment of mine in which I stated or implied that I thought Metiria Turei was 'great', I will apologise and withdraw from this discussion. 

 

 

Well, I think you have been called out for making assertions without evidence a few times as well. 


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