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  #1881875 11-Oct-2017 11:46
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Sweeping generalisations are always inaccurate but I lived in America for many years and I would definitely agree that on the whole, Americans are shockingly ignorant compared to almost any other place in the world, certainly any other place I have lived. Because it is so big, and relatively homogeneous (yes, it is in the ways that matter), America tends towards insularity. In general, people there are very inward-looking and not particularly interested in, or knowledgeable about, the rest of the world. This is reflected by their domestic news media, which just regurgitate what people already think and want to hear. There are exceptions, of such, such as the generally excellent PBS news, but this only appeals to a tiny minority.


This is my impression based on many years of actual experience living amongst Americans. If anyone wants links, look them up yourselves. I am simply reporting my subjective experience.





I will get flamed for saying this, but I have lived in NZ for a lot of years and I have discovered there are a LOT of ignorant NZers as well. Shock horror!!


I tried to run a few over yesterday on Waterloo Quay that were lying in the middle of the road with a maori flag...WTF. Sure its fine to protest but why bring Wellington to its knees over what....


Also in NZ surprise surprise there are a minority of people that insist on forcing their views down our throats cause the majority is always wrong. Guess I am guilty of that at times.


Sometimes we all need to take a look in the mirror to see who is being ignorant.


I know and have worked with a lot of Americans and they are fine people. 



Folks have a right to protest and protest should be encouraged as it is a key element of democracy, however those protestors went too far and probably lost support because of it. Thankfully family members were able to attend the conference safely. What I don't understand from your post is what has the Tino Rangatiratanga Flag have to do with it?



Because people lying down in the middle of the road had it swing about their body. You tell me my? Paid protesters? There was many of these flags flying from protesters on the Quay, which I didnt mind, as that wasnt doing any harm.

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  #1882693 13-Oct-2017 00:06
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Not sure about that "homogenous" bit.
My lasting impression after visiting at least 40 states is that the US is incredibly diverse.


One day I was eating catfish and drinking beer with locals on the banks of the Mississippi in Missouri - who were boasting about methods they used to discourage n*ggers from settling nearby, another day I'm mingling with and talking to reporters from WP and NYT at a formal function at the UN. 



You can't compare southern crackers with UN journalists but if you go to any trailer park anywhere in the country, then go to any other one anywhere else, you won't be able to tell the difference even if thousands of miles separate them. Same applies to any typical suburb. 





I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney


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  #1883004 13-Oct-2017 13:52
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"(CNN) — The National Rifle Association says it is opposed to new legislation in the US Senate and the House that would ban the production and sale of 'bump fire stocks,' a firearm accessory that allows semi-automatic weapons to fire at a more rapid pace like automatic ones.

Bump stocks became a major source of discussion on Capitol Hill over the last two weeks after the attachments were found on guns of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock."

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