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  #1984818 28-Mar-2018 11:20
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With Cullen in the Tax working group and Clark as GG it's like hell on earth all over again. 


 
 
 

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  #1984819 28-Mar-2018 11:20
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networkn:

 

Pumpedd:

 

networkn:

 

I thought it was funny that JA is minimizing the seriousness of being kept in the dark over the sexual assault at the camp, but her "idol" came out and said it was completely unacceptable and when asked what Clark would have done made it pretty clear heads would have rolled. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aunty Helen for next Govner General....imagine it...

 

 

Please tell me you are kidding?

 

 

 

 

YES I am kidding...but maybe our first President? She couldnt be much worse than the one we have now.


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rjt123:
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Labours latest bit of Subterfuge is just more fuel on the fire that our national Radio Station RNZ is a Red Biased Media Outlet. 

 


Pretty much all media get accused of that, and if not then accused of going soft on perception of former right leaning views. It's all a bit silly those kind of accusations.


Actually not as silly as you think. Why couldn't they come clean about the meeting? If there's something to hide then it must be something that the public wouldn't like, and political bias ticks that box.

 

 

 

Given that Hirschfeld hid the meeting from her chief executive (This is why she had to resign) I am guessing they were trying to kick something off without the involvement of the management at RNZ.




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  #1984821 28-Mar-2018 11:22
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Pumpedd:

 

YES I am kidding...but maybe our first President? She couldnt be much worse than the one we have now.

 

 

I would take JA over HC every day of the week, twice on Sundays. 


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  #1984822 28-Mar-2018 11:22
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networkn:

 

With Cullen in the Tax working group and Clark as GG it's like hell on earth all over again. 

 

 

If Helen Clark becomes GG she drops out of political influence. 


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  #1984827 28-Mar-2018 11:25
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Pumpedd:

 

 

 

YES I am kidding...but maybe our first President? She couldnt be much worse than the one we have now.

 

 

 

 

Richie McCaw for President or bring back Buck


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  #1984831 28-Mar-2018 11:34
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If Helen Clark becomes GG she drops out of political influence. 

 

 

That would be nice! I take back every bad word I said about the appointment.




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  #1984834 28-Mar-2018 11:36
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Richie McCaw for President or bring back Buck

 

 

No thanks! I love Richie and Buck, but politics ruins people. Makes them compromise their values to get important policies passed. 

 

I knew a guy who went into politics. He said he had 12 things he wanted to achieve (most of them great ideas etc), but everyone else has 12 things too, so the BEST you can hope for is giving up 11 things (or worse supporting someone elses policies to go directly against those things), to get 1 thing done. He said it destroyed him.

 

 


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  #1984836 28-Mar-2018 11:40
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I saw this in the Herald today

 

 

 

"Twyford is talking of 3000 to 4000 new homes on the 29ha he is acquiring from Unitec. Auckland has been building about 7000 new houses a year and it needs to build twice that number every year to keep pace with projected demand. All going to plan, construction will start on the Kiwibuild project next year. By then he will need to have many such projects on the drawing board if he is to be produce Labour's promises of 100,000 houses within 10 years.

 

That will require 3000 to 4000 additional completed houses every year on top of the 7000 the private sector is producing."

 

 

 

Reading that, it struck me that there is a bit of a fudge going on. If Twyford only needs to build 3000-4000 homes a year for 10 years, then he is only adding a maximum of 40,000 homes over and above the ones that would have existed even if he had done nothing. How disingenuous is it of Labour to claim they will build 100,000 houses when in fact 700,000 of them would have been built anyway? Surely they cannot claim any political points for that?

 

Labour are (assuming they succeed, which seems unlikely) only building 40000 homes, not 100,000 homes.... Is it not time they stopped all references to the 100,000?






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  #1984975 28-Mar-2018 15:09
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rjt123:
gzt:
networkn:

Labours latest bit of Subterfuge is just more fuel on the fire that our national Radio Station RNZ is a Red Biased Media Outlet. 


Pretty much all media get accused of that, and if not then accused of going soft on perception of former right leaning views. It's all a bit silly those kind of accusations.


Actually not as silly as you think. Why couldn't they come clean about the meeting? If there's something to hide then it must be something that the public wouldn't like, and political bias ticks that box.

The primary issue seems to be that RNZ directors were misled by earlier assurances from Hirschfeld that it was a very casual contact.

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  #1984983 28-Mar-2018 15:21
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gzt:
rjt123:
gzt:
networkn:

 

Labours latest bit of Subterfuge is just more fuel on the fire that our national Radio Station RNZ is a Red Biased Media Outlet. 

 


Pretty much all media get accused of that, and if not then accused of going soft on perception of former right leaning views. It's all a bit silly those kind of accusations.


Actually not as silly as you think. Why couldn't they come clean about the meeting? If there's something to hide then it must be something that the public wouldn't like, and political bias ticks that box.

The primary issue seems to be that RNZ directors were misled by earlier assurances from Hirschfeld that it was a very casual contact.

 

It was clearly a case of the Minister trying to put her own in charge of RNZ. Richard Griffen is already on borrowed time as Chairman..then this happened. Its deeply suspicious behavior by the Minister.


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  #1984986 28-Mar-2018 15:29
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gzt:
rjt123:
gzt:
networkn:

Labours latest bit of Subterfuge is just more fuel on the fire that our national Radio Station RNZ is a Red Biased Media Outlet. 


Pretty much all media get accused of that, and if not then accused of going soft on perception of former right leaning views. It's all a bit silly those kind of accusations.


Actually not as silly as you think. Why couldn't they come clean about the meeting? If there's something to hide then it must be something that the public wouldn't like, and political bias ticks that box.

The primary issue seems to be that RNZ directors were misled by earlier assurances from Hirschfeld that it was a very casual contact.


That's Hirschfeld's issue. But that doesn't explain Curran's issue that she failed to declare her meeting despite it being in her OFFICIAL diary. So saying it's coincidence that both parties were reluctant to declare the meeting sounds very lame... So it's quite reasonable to assume they were trying to hide the fact they met. So Curran's issue is 'what was the motive?'


Edit: as for the motive see @geektastic post above

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  #1984989 28-Mar-2018 15:37
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At which point did Curran fail to acknowledge the meeting?

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gzt: At which point did Curran fail to acknowledge the meeting?

 

Failure to correct what she knew was being presented as incorrect knowledge, is in and of itself, dishonesty. She has apologized to the PM (Who seems clearly completely paralyzed by the number of issues hitting her at the same time) which should be a clear indication of fault. 

 

 


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Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has now confirmed that there is Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand. In answer to a question in Parliament today, Peters said: "The NZSIS advise us it is aware of Russian intelligence activity in New Zealand and where it is seen, appropriate action is taken.

 

 

 

This Government is a shambles. It's embarrassing. 

 

 


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