I am a little surprised that Joyce joined the race.
I presume if he made PM, he would not hold the finance role, wonder who it then falls to.
I am very surprised as he is doesnt come across as modern. Surprised Hoskings supports him....
As mentioned, some people I know and respect, think very highly of their personal/professional interactions with him. He is considered to be very knowledgeable.
I think Hosking fits in the same category. I agree with Hosking that his bullish attitude similar to that of Collins, probably won't go across well.