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  #1966471 1-Mar-2018 13:26
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rjt123:Maybe that's where ACT prove their worth.

 

What "worth"?

 

As an immature libertarian publicity stuntsman trying to make a point that really doesn't need to be made?

 

Then reacts badly in his own defense when roasted by the people he deliberately trolled, as if he's the victim of an attempt to stifle free speech.

 

NZ doesn't need divisive trolls as MPs.

 

 

 


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  #1966485 1-Mar-2018 13:33
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He is within his rights to wear that t-shirt.  It wasn't intended to be offensive.  The offensiveness argument was a tenuous construct by a green party MP (the one photographed smiling with war criminals) in order to have a crack at a political opponent.

 

I like both meat club t-shirt designs - the one depicted above and the male analog.





Mike

 
 
 
 


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  #1966498 1-Mar-2018 13:47
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MikeAqua:

 

He is within his rights to wear that t-shirt.  It wasn't intended to be offensive.  The offensiveness argument was a tenuous construct by a green party MP (the one photographed smiling with war criminals) in order to have a crack at a political opponent.

 

I like both meat club t-shirt designs - the one depicted above and the male analog.

 

 

Of course he's within his "rights" to wear that.

 

If you think he wore that with without being fully aware that to do so was to "troll", then I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

Defending the rights of stupid frat boys to behave like stupid frat boys (within the law) doesn't necessitate joining in with their "harmless fun".


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  #1966513 1-Mar-2018 14:17
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Fred99:

 

MikeAqua:

 

He is within his rights to wear that t-shirt.  It wasn't intended to be offensive.  The offensiveness argument was a tenuous construct by a green party MP (the one photographed smiling with war criminals) in order to have a crack at a political opponent.

 

I like both meat club t-shirt designs - the one depicted above and the male analog.

 

 

Of course he's within his "rights" to wear that.

 

If you think he wore that with without being fully aware that to do so was to "troll", then I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

Defending the rights of stupid frat boys to behave like stupid frat boys (within the law) doesn't necessitate joining in with their "harmless fun".

 

 

Basically he represents the non-vegan population, the greens the vegans. 

 

Perhaps he should have worn a t-shirt that said "down with benefit fraud" - you could call that trolling too if you wanted.

 

I'm strongly against sexual violence against women, but like anything, some people get carried away, read too deeply into things and take a very one-sided perspective.


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  #1966525 1-Mar-2018 14:32
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rjt123:

 

Fred99:

 

MikeAqua:

 

He is within his rights to wear that t-shirt.  It wasn't intended to be offensive.  The offensiveness argument was a tenuous construct by a green party MP (the one photographed smiling with war criminals) in order to have a crack at a political opponent.

 

I like both meat club t-shirt designs - the one depicted above and the male analog.

 

 

Of course he's within his "rights" to wear that.

 

If you think he wore that with without being fully aware that to do so was to "troll", then I've got a bridge to sell you.

 

Defending the rights of stupid frat boys to behave like stupid frat boys (within the law) doesn't necessitate joining in with their "harmless fun".

 

 

Basically he represents the non-vegan population, the greens the vegans. 

 

Perhaps he should have worn a t-shirt that said "down with benefit fraud" - you could call that trolling too if you wanted.

 

I'm strongly against sexual violence against women, but like anything, some people get carried away, read too deeply into things and take a very one-sided perspective.

 

 

Sure. 

 

He was fully aware that he was beating his meat.

 

Probably as he couldn't get any fresh meat.

 

Him pretending innocence - that he didn't know exactly what was going on - is lame. 

 

But he's always had the naive innocence of some school kid who was given a copy of Atlas Shrugged and thought of it as a definitive, life-changing bible.


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  #1966532 1-Mar-2018 14:37
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Fred99:

 

rjt123:Maybe that's where ACT prove their worth.

 

What "worth"?

 

As an immature libertarian publicity stuntsman trying to make a point that really doesn't need to be made?

 

Then reacts badly in his own defense when roasted by the people he deliberately trolled, as if he's the victim of an attempt to stifle free speech.

 

NZ doesn't need divisive trolls as MPs.

 

 

 

 

I don't by any means agree with the views, policies or values of all the minor political parties in NZ, but I strongly support the principle of a broad spread of representation in parliament, which along with moderating the power of the major parties, also represents the minority views from the population. That is a fundamental principle of MMP (ironically the same electoral system that National supporters are said not understand).

 

It doesn't necessarily work flawlessly, nevertheless, it generally does produce a more balanced government.

 

The ACT party should be an example to the Green, who sold out cheap on their voter base choosing to play second-fiddle to NZF despite being equally pivotal in the arrangements.


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  #1966536 1-Mar-2018 14:46
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Fred99:

 

Him pretending innocence - that he didn't know exactly what was going on - is lame. 

 

 

 

 

Getting offended by it is equally lame - especially considering the majority of the female population probably walk around campus parading themselves as "fresh meat" - just to be brutally honest.


 
 
 
 


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  #1966541 1-Mar-2018 14:55
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rjt123:

 

Getting offended by it is equally lame - especially considering the majority of the female population probably walk around campus parading themselves as "fresh meat" - just to be brutally honest.

 

 

Oh FFS.

 

Glad you got that out of your system?


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  #1966545 1-Mar-2018 15:04
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Fred99:

 

rjt123:

 

Getting offended by it is equally lame - especially considering the majority of the female population probably walk around campus parading themselves as "fresh meat" - just to be brutally honest.

 

 

Oh FFS.

 

 

For the record I'm not PC, if you hadn't already guessed. But can you explain why you don't agree with that statement?

 

Edit: Just to use your expression: "the naive innocence of some school kid", it would be naive to pretend that they don't.


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  #1966546 1-Mar-2018 15:13
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rjt123:

 

Fred99:

 

rjt123:

 

Getting offended by it is equally lame - especially considering the majority of the female population probably walk around campus parading themselves as "fresh meat" - just to be brutally honest.

 

 

Oh FFS.

 

 

For the record I'm not PC, if you hadn't already guessed. But can you explain why you don't agree with that statement?

 

Edit: Just to use your expression: "the naive innocence of some school kid", it would be naive to pretend that they don't.

 

 

To paraphrase your "non PC" comment, you're saying that young women are "asking for it".

 

That's a statement - not a question.

 

I don't think they are, and  I don't think that attitude is okay, and I don't care what the hell else you'll reply with to try and worm your way out of that clearly disgusting revelation about your attitude to women.


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  #1966548 1-Mar-2018 15:22
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Fred99:

 

rjt123:

 

Fred99:

 

rjt123:

 

Getting offended by it is equally lame - especially considering the majority of the female population probably walk around campus parading themselves as "fresh meat" - just to be brutally honest.

 

 

Oh FFS.

 

 

For the record I'm not PC, if you hadn't already guessed. But can you explain why you don't agree with that statement?

 

Edit: Just to use your expression: "the naive innocence of some school kid", it would be naive to pretend that they don't.

 

 

To paraphrase your "non PC" comment, you're saying that young women are "asking for it".

 

That's a statement - not a question.

 

I don't think they are, and  I don't think that attitude is okay, and I don't care what the hell else you'll reply with to try and worm your way out of that clearly disgusting revelation about your attitude to women.

 

 

Which confirms my comment previously: 

 

"I'm strongly against sexual violence against women, but like anything, some people get carried away, read too deeply into things and take a very one-sided perspective"


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  #1966551 1-Mar-2018 15:29
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rjt123:

 

Which confirms my comment previously: 

 

@I'm strongly against sexual violence against women, but like anything, some people get carried away, read too deeply into things and take a very one-sided perspective"

 

 

You keep repeating that.  Just a reminder that misogyny doesn't only (or even often) manifest in (sexual) violence. 

 

You can hold deeply misogynistic views, even if you're not a wife-beater.


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  #1966570 1-Mar-2018 15:42
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Fred99:

 

rjt123:

 

Which confirms my comment previously: 

 

@I'm strongly against sexual violence against women, but like anything, some people get carried away, read too deeply into things and take a very one-sided perspective"

 

 

You keep repeating that.  Just a reminder that misogyny doesn't only (or even often) manifest in (sexual) violence. 

 

You can hold deeply misogynistic views, even if you're not a wife-beater.

 

 

The issue wasn't misogyny - the issue was depicting humans of any gender as meat.

 

I believe it was you who were trying to develop a misogynistic perspective out of a non-event.


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  #1966583 1-Mar-2018 15:55
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rjt123:

 

Fred99:

 

rjt123:

 

Which confirms my comment previously: 

 

@I'm strongly against sexual violence against women, but like anything, some people get carried away, read too deeply into things and take a very one-sided perspective"

 

 

You keep repeating that.  Just a reminder that misogyny doesn't only (or even often) manifest in (sexual) violence. 

 

You can hold deeply misogynistic views, even if you're not a wife-beater.

 

 

The issue wasn't misogyny - the issue was depicting humans of any gender as meat.

 

I believe it was you who were trying to develop a misogynistic perspective out of a non-event.

 

 

I don't know why I'd bother trying to use rational argument to convince you out of a position you didn't - and still can't - rationalise yourself in to.

 

That last comment of yours makes no sense whatsoever.

 

The issue with your comments certainly is about misogyny.

 

You made the comment:

 

"...the majority of the female population probably walk around campus parading themselves as "fresh meat" - just to be brutally honest."

 

Then you're preaching to me about what misogyny is, and using your claim that you're opposed to "sexual violence against women" wearing it as some kind of a medal?

 

Whatever it is you've got, it's not from eating meat.

 

 

 

 


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  #1966589 1-Mar-2018 16:14
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You two should get a room. Your are both being silly.


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