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  Reply # 1982856 25-Mar-2018 13:38
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Rikkitic:

 

I think I did not do a good job of explaining my point, or people did not understand it. I do not think anyone in any position should be held liable after the fact for things that happened under their watch, as long as no criminality is involved. I do think they should remain accountable, in the sense of having to submit to questions about their performance and the things that happened while they were responsible. I think this should apply to Ministers in particular, but also other officials.The reason I think this is because the things people in charge decide continue to have an effect long after they are gone, and I think it is legitimate to be able to question them about those. The excuse that 'I don't work there any more' should not be sufficient to avoid having to provide any explanations when consequences emerge later. 

 

Your question doesn't apply to me since I am a pensioner, but in principle, yes, I should be required to explain why I made the decisions I did at the time. I shouldn't be accountable  in any liability sense as long as no criminal behaviour was involved, but people are entitled to ask why I did that and didn't do this and they are entitled to the courtesy of a proper reply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The problem is that such people would be outside the chain of command, could possibly have conflicts of interest which have arisen since leaving, could jeopardise matters going on in their old workplaces which they know nothing about and all sorts of other things.

 

I think, ultimately, in government the correct route is that the current Minister is responsible today and needs to be answering the questions based on briefings from his staff who were in the department at the time. There's little point, really, in a non criminal scenario, in questioning someone about something that happened some while ago, the resolution of which they cannot control any longer and which may well be superseded by other policies and decisions made subsequently.








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  Reply # 1982861 25-Mar-2018 13:48
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The intention of my suggestion was that they could be compelled to answer legitimate questions about their time in office if they were not otherwise forthcoming. 

 

 





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Rikkitic:

The intention of my suggestion was that they could be compelled to answer legitimate questions about their time in office if they were not otherwise forthcoming. 


 



Dr Coleman did answer the question numerous times so no issue.




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  Reply # 1982903 25-Mar-2018 16:54
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Not according to the transcript I saw. He said no-one ever told him about it. The journalist found that remarkable and tried to press him for details. Then he hung up. That is not 'answering the question', but as I have tried to make clear here, my own question is about something else. I was merely using Coleman as an example.

 

 





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Rikkitic:

Not according to the transcript I saw. He said no-one ever told him about it. The journalist found that remarkable and tried to press him for details. Then he hung up. That is not 'answering the question', but as I have tried to make clear here, my own question is about something else. I was merely using Coleman as an example.


 



Because the journalist did not like an answer it does not make it unanswered. Your example has no weight and there is no issue. If there is negligence, mistakes or illegal action by officials there is already in place processes and sanctions available. We don't need prosecution by press in Aotearoa.




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  Reply # 1982910 25-Mar-2018 17:08
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Read what I have been saying. I'm not talking about legal culpability, just a refusal to answer questions. It is still a valid point. If you think journalists have no business asking questions of their betters, then I am not surprised that newspapers here are in trouble.

 

 





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Journalist of course can ask but they must accept when it has been answered even if the answer does not fit their predetermined script. The right not answer is the same as the right to answer.




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  Reply # 1982943 25-Mar-2018 17:32
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Since you want the last word so badly, I will let you have it. This is going nowhere.

 

 





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Rikkitic:

Since you want the last word so badly, I will let you have it. This is going nowhere.


 



Good grief I was answering YOUR post asking me to read again what you have written. I guess you only want agreement with you, hmm much like the RNZ *cough* journalist.




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Rikkitic:

Since you want the last word so badly, I will let you have it. This is going nowhere.


 



Good grief I was answering YOUR post asking me to read again what you have written. I guess you only want agreement with you, hmm much like the RNZ *cough* journalist.




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Rikkitic:

 

Since you want the last word so badly, I will let you have it. This is going nowhere.

 

 

So who got the last word here?  wink


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Here's the rub of it: is Radio NZ currently applying the same levels of scrutiny to any current ministers about their policies, non-existent or otherwise? I think we all know the answer here. 


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GV27:

 

Here's the rub of it: is Radio NZ currently applying the same levels of scrutiny to any current ministers about their policies, non-existent or otherwise? I think we all know the answer here. 

 

 

 

 

They do mostly apply the same technique though - ask the same question again and again, even when it has been answered, if you do not like the answer....K Ryan, J Campbell et al take note!






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