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  Reply # 2063789 27-Jul-2018 18:29
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gzt:
DaveB: I hope some people take a few minutes out to consider what you say. NZ does not have much experience of this ............

A combined National Front / English Defense League march against a new mosque.

 

Correct. Well done. And why is that? Take a step back for a moment. It is not just about racism, that's the easy way out. Consider for a moment what my sister in law said to me …. "The saddest thing is, we only have the scum that are the English Defense League who can stand up and say something without getting shut down."

 

Luckily, we don't have this problem here in NZ. It is therefore easy to cast judgement.

 

As I said, we need to find ways around this.


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  Reply # 2063790 27-Jul-2018 18:29
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Rikkitic:

 

Speaking of the worms...

 

 

No need for that. Keep it adult please.

 

 

You should talk. Shall I quote some of your earlier rants? In any case, I was referring to the infestation, not those infested. Brain worms cause bad judgement.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 2063809 27-Jul-2018 19:33
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Holy cow folks let's step back and chill a bit.




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  Reply # 2063829 27-Jul-2018 20:17
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DaveB:

gzt:
DaveB: I hope some people take a few minutes out to consider what you say. NZ does not have much experience of this ............

A combined National Front / English Defense League march against a new mosque.


Correct. Well done. And why is that? Take a step back for a moment. It is not just about racism, that's the easy way out. Consider for a moment what my sister in law said to me …. "The saddest thing is, we only have the scum that are the English Defense League who can stand up and say something without getting shut down."


Luckily, we don't have this problem here in NZ. It is therefore easy to cast judgement.


As I said, we need to find ways around this.


Ok so your sister in law opposes the mosque. You don't mention why, maybe your sister in law opposes the mosque either for religious reasons or town planning type reasons. On the religious side I see the local Christian denominations support the mosque. Maybe it's not that reason. On the town planning side that is approved by the council.

There was a council election very recently which I assume would have been a good barometer for local feeling about the mosque. It appears to me the mosque was proposed prior to the election and approved after that election. It seems the mosque was a non-issue to most people.

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  Reply # 2063831 27-Jul-2018 20:19
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Rikkitic:

 

The problem isn't people like her. It is people who listen to people like her.

 

 

 

 

Its actually the media who give her the publicity for free that she is seeking. People should not be hated against for "different" views, but those people like social media and the media in general should be held account for publicing those extreme views over and above what is normal.


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  Reply # 2063832 27-Jul-2018 20:21
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Rikkitic:

 

DaveB:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Speaking of the worms...

 

 

No need for that. Keep it adult please.

 

 

You should talk. Shall I quote some of your earlier rants? In any case, I was referring to the infestation, not those infested. Brain worms cause bad judgement.

 

 

 

 

I am not sure why some of your nasty posts remain here. IMO it is getting offensive. (Third edit...OMG I am bad)


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  Reply # 2063839 27-Jul-2018 20:32
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It wasn't aimed at anyone. It was aimed at a way of thinking.

 

 





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  Reply # 2063840 27-Jul-2018 20:35
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MikeB4: Holy cow folks let's step back and chill a bit.

 

I feel like it is a serious issue, Mike. Insinuators keep trying to sneak in a little subtle intolerance by dressing it up in acceptable-sounding labels and making it seem somehow not quite as despicable and dehumanising. Pity the poor native who has seen their neighbourhood change to something unfamiliar, but not a glimmer of understanding for the frightened and lonely stranger in a strange land.





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  Reply # 2063841 27-Jul-2018 20:38
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It is about racism. These fascists circle around the issue, arguing about "their" "culture" as if it was "under threat".
It's abject BS.
Fascist scum recruiting white people in NZ by arguing that "our" culture is under threat. Very bloody stupid.

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  Reply # 2063843 27-Jul-2018 20:42
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Pumpedd: I am not sure why some of your nasty posts remain here. IMO it is getting offensive. (Third edit...OMG I am bad)

Lauren Southern and her crowd are fascists, fascists are the scum of the earth, it's fine to call fascists scum.

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  Reply # 2063875 27-Jul-2018 22:06
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Pumpedd: I am not sure why some of your nasty posts remain here. IMO it is getting offensive. (Third edit...OMG I am bad)

Lauren Southern and her crowd are fascists, fascists are the scum of the earth, it's fine to call fascists scum.

 

 

 

Post wasnt direct to you Fred. 

 

Personally I prefer if you didnt refer to anyone in that way in a public forum. 

 

This is another example of a thread that shouldnt exist due to the extreme views on the matter. Whilst I think all views are important it is not OK to call people out in this way as it really just shows the poster up in a bad light.


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  Reply # 2063900 28-Jul-2018 08:21
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As far as fascists go - I really don't care if you'd prefer I didn't call them scum. They are scum.
Here you go:
Local neonazi fascist filthy scum doing an anti-Semitic leaflet drop in Dunedin. Headline for the leaflet - "It's OK to be white". The same headline as the subject of this thread wears emblazoned on her tee shirt.
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/anti-semitic-leaflets-dispensed-dunedin

That's why NZ should reject visa applications by scum like Southern.

They need to be condemned - not facilitated - they represent evil.

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  Reply # 2063901 28-Jul-2018 08:31
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Some posts in this thread suggesting implied support for these fascists are a probably a woeful indictment on the state of history education in this country. It shouldn't be hard to spot fascists. If you think they might be - then they probably are.

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  Reply # 2063933 28-Jul-2018 10:07
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What intrigues me about all this is how eager some people are to persuade us that Southern and her ilk aren't saying anything all that awful after all, and we would realise that if only we would listen to her. Why so much effort to get us to listen to her? Maybe she has magic words that will also infect us, like the pod people in the film? Just go to sleep and wake up a new person! Brain worms will take care of the rest.

 

I don't care how 'reasonable' she sounds. I care what she has been documented to have said and done. I care that her presence here and in Australia is giving her credibility that she absolutely doesn't deserve. I care that she is the worst kind of racist (the kind who is unashamed about it). Shame on her and shame on those who whisper that she isn't all that bad after all!

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 2063943 28-Jul-2018 10:42
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This is turning into a comedy with people reading what they want to in other people posts, despite them being quite clear. Brain worms???? really? You threatening people now?

 

 


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