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#2077978 23-Aug-2018 14:49

amiga500:

Turnbull to speak in 14 minutes at 1 pm Australian time. Sounds like a resignation to me.

Yeah I'd imagine so. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed but his replacement (either of the two options) don't seem any better.

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#2078008 23-Aug-2018 15:32

Not stepping down, unless the party votes against him. He also questioned his primary challenger's eligibility to even be an MP due to conflicting business interests and wants that resolved before his party votes on Friday.

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#2078011 23-Aug-2018 15:35

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Not stepping down, unless the party votes against him. He also questioned his primary challenger's eligibility to even be an MP due to conflicting business interests and wants that resolved before his party votes on Friday.

I think earlier legal opinion indicated Dutton was in the clear regarding this, and I imagine Dutton did his home work prior. I guess we will find out tomorrow.

I don't think any of this matters a jot for NZ.

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#2078019 23-Aug-2018 15:47

New leader will mean new policy directions and priorities. I think Dutton is part of the faction who want to deport as many NZers from Australia as they can and may step up the process. Also a big stop the boats crowd and wants NZ to provide more assistance with that.

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#2078130 23-Aug-2018 20:12

networkn:

Yeah I'd imagine so. He wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed but his replacement (either of the two options) don't seem any better.

Given that he's a Rhodes Scholar, has a BCL from Oxford, practiced as a lawyer, had been a merchant banker, and is a multi-millionaire, one would suspect he's not exactly stupid and is in all likelihood (objectively speaking) more intelligent than people who utter cheap shots like yours.

Edit: For clarity, I should add that I am saying this as someone who despises conservative politics of all strands.

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#2078395 24-Aug-2018 11:39

Turnbull has been told by Liberal leadership that he must hold a meeting. They have told Turnbull that requiring 43 signatures to be on a letter is unreasonable. It seems that Tony Abbott agreed to such a meeting when only two or three back benchers asked for one.

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#2078547 24-Aug-2018 14:21

If Turnbull does resign his seat immediately the next liberal candidate for Wentworth will be a 'Turnbull'. Someone who has lived in Wentworth for years, has at least been a Bondi Nipper if not a fully fledged lifeguard, have fairly progressive social values, be a well established lawyer or accountant, be squeaky clean, have the potential to be a cabinet member.

As holding Wentworth will be vital the liberals would not risk putting up a clone of Peter Dutton.

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#2078564 24-Aug-2018 14:37

amiga500:

If Turnbull does resign his seat immediately the next liberal candidate for Wentworth will be a 'Turnbull'. Someone who has lived in Wentworth for years, has at least been a Bondi Nipper if not a fully fledged lifeguard, have fairly progressive social values, be a well established lawyer or accountant, be squeaky clean, have the potential to be a cabinet member.

As holding Wentworth will be vital the liberals would not risk putting up a clone of Peter Dutton.

If Turnbull does look set to resign from parliament - that won't be working in Dutton's favour in the meeting now.

They could lose a safe seat - and thus lose everything. Would serve them right if that happens.

I understand that Wentworth had one of the largest majority "yes" votes in the same sex marriage plebiscite. Dutton's views on that subject are well known.

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#2078575 24-Aug-2018 14:49

Ain't democracy wonderful (sometimes)?

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2078577 24-Aug-2018 14:51

And the next unelected PM of Australia is:

Scott Morrison

Tomorrow - who knows?

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#2078584 24-Aug-2018 14:57

Rikkitic:

Ain't democracy wonderful (sometimes)?

They're bloody quick to turn on their own over there.

Can't help but think that if Morrison eases back on his quite hard right stance in order to make sure Turnbull's vacated seat is safe, Dutton will bide his time and pounce before a general election - if the polls don't look good - and my guess is they won't look good.

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#2078586 24-Aug-2018 14:58

There was only 5 votes between them. That's hardly a united party in my view.

I wonder how many were strong opposed to vs had a slight preference for, one leader or another.

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#2078587 24-Aug-2018 15:02

They are more like post war Italy these days. Maybe Trump can fix them after all he an A+ wiz kid

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#2078590 24-Aug-2018 15:03

MikeB4:

They are more like post war Italy these days. Maybe Trump can fix them after all he an A+ wiz kid

Don't say the T word, you know it just sets certain people off :)

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#2078593 24-Aug-2018 15:06

networkn:

MikeB4:

They are more like post war Italy these days. Maybe Trump can fix them after all he an A+ wiz kid

Don't bring him up in here, you know it just sets certain people off :)

They can't cause I trumped in

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