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  # 2099392 1-Oct-2018 14:11
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OK.

 

I'll leave it there then.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2099465 1-Oct-2018 14:50
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Reciprocity: Again, I can see why it is a breach.
My question is why one, but not the other?

Am I being unreasonable asking?

 

Well one of the posters has a subscriber icon and the other not. 🤔

 

From what I have seen, @Rikkitic gets a free pass in dozens of of threads spewing the same garbage/personal attacks that others are banned for. 🤷‍♂️ 


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  # 2099468 1-Oct-2018 14:58
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Holy damn. Did you go there, really?

Subscription has nothing to do with this. I have banned subscribers before (even refunding). Pull your head in before throwing these kind of accusations.




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  # 2099470 1-Oct-2018 14:59
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As it happens, I have been banned no less than twice from Geekzone during my time here. Check your facts before you jump to conclusions.

 

 





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I think maybe like the previous thread this ome should be adorned with a padlock.





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  # 2099633 1-Oct-2018 20:07
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Some people contribute very little other than breaching the rules, so the forum owner decides that the place is better off without one such individual in particular. What's the big deal? From what I can see, one of the two banned individuals basically has contributed nothing other than selective one-liners and insults.

 

 

 

 


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  # 2099834 2-Oct-2018 09:37
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Attempting to get this topic back on track ... somewhat.

 

If we are talking about making a difference to climate change .. we need to do more than set an example. We have to take management action.

 

'Setting an example' could be seen as either thought leadership or virtue signalling depending on your perspective.  NZ set an example and was/is a thought leader on free trade.  Decades later we still have to enter intense negotiations to get other markets to reduce their tariffs on NZ products.

 

Banning new hydrocarbon exploration can't be seen as a management action because it won't reduce emission.  According to advice given to govt it may increase them.  This underscores a fundamental issue IMO - we are not really developing the key technologies that reduce our emissions of carbon (cars, renewable energy etc).  We are largely importing them.  So individuals, families and organisations are waiting for the right tech, at the right price.  Change will be piecemeal and gradual.

 

Somewhere we can lead/innovate is in the agriculture sector - this also happens to be a big component of our emissions.





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With regards to the oil exploration ban, yes there will be no immediate affect on emmisions but the long term goal is to reduce dependency on oil and gas and that will reduce emisions. There is also the other main reason for the ban that is the enviromental impact of the exploration and extraction. This poses a risk to our valualble tourist, aquaculture and fishing industries.

 

The Governments long term goal is for New Zealands energy requirements to be from sustainable renewable sources and the ban on oil and gas exploration fits that goal.





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How does a ban reduce our need for oil and gas? We will simply import it. The Government should have set about looking on positive (after proper consultation) ways to reduce the need in the first place.

 

The ban simply moves the place the drilling occurs, to someone elses neighbourhood. As long as there is demand, there will be drilling.

 

 


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MikeB4:

 

This poses a risk to our valualble tourist, aquaculture and fishing industries.

 

 

Aquaculture and oil exploration tend to happen in different places. The biggest risk to aquaculture by far is people opposed to aquaculture. 

 

Fishing and exploration have co-existed for decades in NZ. 

 

I'd even question the appeal of the offshore drilling locations for tourists.





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  # 2099863 2-Oct-2018 10:19
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I'd even question the appeal of the offshore drilling locations for tourists.

 

 

Yes, I did wonder about that too :)

 

 


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How does a ban reduce our need for oil and gas? We will simply import it. The Government should have set about looking on positive (after proper consultation) ways to reduce the need in the first place.

 

The ban simply moves the place the drilling occurs, to someone elses neighbourhood. As long as there is demand, there will be drilling.

 

 

 

 

I can't disagree with this.

 

The ban is essentially the same as those old social media campaigns that used to try and convince people not to fill up their cars on a particular day, so that the petrol stations will "feel the pinch" and be forced to reduce their prices.

 

Even if successfully orchestrated, exactly the same amount of petrol would be consumed and purchased.

 

The best way to effect change is to modify behaviours and improve/replace ICE technologies.


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