Fred99:Reciprocity:
But this thread is (loosely) about Brash - I was referring to your stated strong belief that he is wrong to oppose affirmative action.That's not actually what I said there:
My comment was based on opposition to Brash's usual argument that "affirmative action" isn't needed, as in his opinion "equality under the law" either had or would - without anything else needed - achieve social/economic equality. I strongly believe he's wrong. I do believe that statistics support me there.Equality of opportunity and equality of outcome aren't automatically conflicting - especially so as I doubt you'd get consensus on how they're defined / what they really mean.
You’re right - I misread your post. I’ve never heard Brash claim that equal outcomes would be achieved by having “one law for all”, So I guess I skipped over that part of your comment. Sorry, my bad.
I struggle to see how the two equalities are not automatically conflicting. (Especially when government is concerned). The Government can’t give anything to an individual or group that it hasn’t first taken away from someone else. Can you show me what you mean?