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  # 2111776 21-Oct-2018 10:02
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Two more victims of Ross's everyday bullying and belittling behavior talk to newsroom:

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/10/19/284377/death-by-1000-cuts-working-for-jami-lee-ross?amp=1

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  # 2111793 21-Oct-2018 10:58
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Why didn't the bullying and harassment victims speak out before now?

 

Will people willingly accept such treatment for 'the party'? Or are they forced to?


 
 
 
 


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# 2111807 21-Oct-2018 11:25
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elpenguino:

 

Why didn't the bullying and harassment victims speak out before now?

 

Will people willingly accept such treatment for 'the party'? Or are they forced to?

 

 

Because some people are afraid others won't believe them. Because the party might force their hands to be silent. Because they are threatened by the accused?

 

There are lots of things and one thing we shouldn't do is ask "why they didn't come forward before".





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  # 2111809 21-Oct-2018 11:28
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freitasm:

 

elpenguino:

 

Why didn't the bullying and harassment victims speak out before now?

 

Will people willingly accept such treatment for 'the party'? Or are they forced to?

 

 

Because some people are afraid others won't believe them. Because the party might force their hands to be silent. Because they are threatened by the accused?

 

There are lots of things and one thing we shouldn't do is ask "why they didn't come forward before".

 

 

Exactly, I remember reading a few of them saying that he would threaten either them or their careers if they spoke out. Now he has no real career to speak of (certainly not in politics, anyway) they have nothing to lose.


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  # 2111810 21-Oct-2018 11:34
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elpenguino:

Why didn't the bullying and harassment victims speak out before now?


Will people willingly accept such treatment for 'the party'? Or are they forced to?


In the two cases above it's a very clear employment relationship so things like employment security, future references, effect on future career. Looks like both were career starters and maybe additional effect there.



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  # 2111813 21-Oct-2018 11:54
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elpenguino:

 

Why didn't the bullying and harassment victims speak out before now?

 

Will people willingly accept such treatment for 'the party'? Or are they forced to?

 

 

 

 

It takes a high degree of courage to go against a senior MP, also victims are more than likely already in a bad mental state due to their treatment. Given New Zealands habit of victim blaming coming forward is doubly harder.





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  # 2111827 21-Oct-2018 12:40
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It also points towards the National Party needing to implement a bullying and harrasment policy including appropriate responses.

 
 
 
 


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  # 2111836 21-Oct-2018 13:05
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In that case they need to start with the party president.

 

 





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Rikkitic:

 

In that case they need to start with the party president.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have I missed something?





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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12146253

 

Tau Henare hits the nail on the head (the ones that should roll)


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According to the 6pm news Ross has just been 'admitted into care'. No further details yet.

 

 

 

 





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Rikkitic:

 

According to the 6pm news Ross has just been 'admitted into care'. No further details yet.

 

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12146335




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  # 2111977 21-Oct-2018 18:23
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I hope he gets the help he needs and makes a speedy recovery.




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  # 2112013 21-Oct-2018 18:42
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MikeB4: I hope he gets the help he needs and makes a speedy recovery.

 

True.

 

The article I read - he was taken by police.  From my dim memories of having to get a family member sectioned, it's a hell of a legal process (as it should be) - more or less you have to prove they're at a serious risk of self-harm - or of harming others.  Incoherent and bizarre behaviour isn't enough.


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Until or unless more is known, this line of the discussion should probably be suspended. Let us all wish him a full recovery.

 

 





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