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Topic # 245178 22-Jan-2019 16:48
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I just became aware that Cameron Slater ('Whaleoil') has been incapacitated by a couple of strokes. I don't like his politics and on the basis of his public statements, I probably wouldn't like him much if I ever met him. Several years ago I was a member for a short time. I was attracted by Slater's campaign against name suppression, which I agreed with. I also found some of his comments entertaining. I suppose he was a bit like a Donald Trump figure, except much more intelligent. I quickly became disenchanted, however. Some of the positions he took repelled me and over time he seemed to become more extreme. This was before he became involved in National's dirty tricks. I drifted away and eventually discovered Geekzone, which was much more to my liking.

 

I don't agree with a lot (probably most) of Slater's ideas, and I don't like his politics. I especially don't like the way he has attacked and disparaged people he doesn't approve of. But I am sorry he has been felled in this way. I don't think he or anyone deserves that and I can't take pleasure from his misfortune, regardless of how I otherwise feel about him. I am sorry this has happened to him and I wish him the fullest possible recovery. So best wishes from this 'lefty'. 

 

 





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  Reply # 2165957 23-Jan-2019 09:13
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Apparently (and I'm not going to the Whaleoil site to check), there's an accusation by a staffer that "The Media" made his health problems worse, and that "A Journalist" caused the second stroke by allegedly attempting to obtain some of Slater's medical records which had been provided to a court under strict confidence.  Of course there's no evidence for this provided, and the journalist and media outlet is unnamed.

 

Stroke or not, opportunistically attempting to shift blame and condemn the "lying press" is true to form, and an ugliness very reminiscent of Trump (and other hard right wingers) bullying and hypocritical intolerance when the worm turns.  Note that this hasn't come from Slater, but his supporter(s).

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 2165974 23-Jan-2019 09:52
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I am not a supporter and I haven't visited the site for years, except yesterday to confirm the news about Slater. I don't agree with their ideas and I don't like their methods. I was just expressing sympathy for a public figure who has suffered a serious health problem. I think that sucks, regardless of his politics. I hope he gets better.

 

 





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  Reply # 2166163 23-Jan-2019 12:45
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Fred99:

 

Apparently (and I'm not going to the Whaleoil site to check), there's an accusation by a staffer that "The Media" made his health problems worse, and that "A Journalist" caused the second stroke by allegedly attempting to obtain some of Slater's medical records which had been provided to a court under strict confidence.  Of course there's no evidence for this provided, and the journalist and media outlet is unnamed.

 

 

Well, I did go to the site and this is what they're offering up as proof.


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  Reply # 2166360 23-Jan-2019 15:48
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Journeyman:

 

Fred99:

 

Apparently (and I'm not going to the Whaleoil site to check), there's an accusation by a staffer that "The Media" made his health problems worse, and that "A Journalist" caused the second stroke by allegedly attempting to obtain some of Slater's medical records which had been provided to a court under strict confidence.  Of course there's no evidence for this provided, and the journalist and media outlet is unnamed.

 

 

Well, I did go to the site and this is what they're offering up as proof.

 

 

IOW no proof at all that the actions of a journalist caused Slater to have a stroke, but a headline ("Bring Back the Biff") phrase that seems to be endorsing physical violence.


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  Reply # 2166424 23-Jan-2019 18:18
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Fred99:

 

IOW no proof at all that the actions of a journalist caused Slater to have a stroke, but a headline ("Bring Back the Biff") phrase that seems to be endorsing physical violence.

 

 

I agree. And as you can imagine, I dislike Cam Slater and his pack of hard-right animal-like supporters. All that said, the kind of fake virtue signaling and convenient double speak that Fisher seems to have engaged in (based on the allegations made in that blog post and an apparent screenshot of the text message from Fisher) is nothing but fuel for Slater's rabid "fans". The hard right media is hypocritical and lacking in self-awareness but a lot of their ammunition is the sloppiness and penchant for selective "facts" on the part of the traditional media (I refuse to be co-opted into using a hard right term to describe those guys).

 

If Fisher doesn't sue for defamation given the allegations against him, then you pretty much know that what has been alleged is true. Nope, it doesn't make Whaleoil credible or palatable reading for non-amoeba but it sure is unnecessary powder for that mob.

 

 

 

   


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